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    Anywhere where some celebrity chef or whomever appeared at Saturday's march and they posted it on Instagram, they were flooded FOR TWO DAYS with awful comments, akin to "Unfollowing you, you stupid bitch" or "I used to respect you, now I have to unfollow you," etc. so the notion that white NRA members weren't paying attention to the marches on Saturday is false; they were paying attention, and they were visibly ANGRY about it, and blaming George Soros, "liberal commies," and a whole slew of others.


    Also, re that article's comment that the NRA only exists to make money for gun manufacturers: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.af69053ce4e4
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    talking to someone about the killer mike thing, and it occurred, to me when ever the right faces or more correctly places a wedge issue its always very black and white issue, so in this case either, we have to take everyone's gun impossible, let's have a war on war, or "no fighting in the war room". so while i could care less about stormy Daniels, i don't care what the idiot does on his free time, or how he values his marriage Clinton was different because, one it was an intern two he totally lied under oath. so that said what i do think is it's horrible the Mr. gay conversion therapy family values guy the VP. does not resign say a word. one of my main issues with the right and x-stains in general. is their level of hypocrisy. same you OK gay marriage doesn't mean you're going to get ass raped using the bathroom pro just because girls don't want to won't fuck you. doesn't mean guys will. now to mistakenly posting embarrassing links.
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    WOW
    The full Killer Mike interview was posed. This is something everyone who posted in this thread for the last week should watch. This will be very enlightening. Every bit of it.

    https://www.nratv.com/series/noir/vi...r-less-freedom

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GFRCx5LJHI

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    this is a good genuine interview and points out a lot of the duplicity of race in America here is the NRA'S own websitehttps://home.nra.org/about-the-nra/ and history no mention of the second amendment, i will wager 90% of people don't know how how many amendments there are 27 so you can feel smart. the 2nd amendment. is vague and controversial even back in the day. I highly recommend a podcast call gun show which explores the history of guns in America. some may find it dry. but like my humor and martini's i prefer my info dry and to the point. as stated before. the right always seems to argue i the extremist black and white idiocy. so to be clear regulation, and prohibition are two clear and separate things now one ever screamed their coming for your cigarettes or cars office building or home all of which are regulated in some form or another. so to be extra clear gay marriage wont affect your marriage one way or another same as letting trans folks use public restrooms, or immigration. most of these things are about freedom of choice, which is the basis of democracy. which i thought the republican's were supposed to champion. the sole purpose of the government is the protection of it's citizen's as a collective. that is it. we have a lot more issues that threaten us as a whole such dismantling of the EPA, race inequality of income, opportunity and education. my opinion most of these Trump has made worse. good listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKTaIY_Qbsk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    i will wager 90% of people don't know how how many amendments there are 27 so you can feel smart.
    The first ten were the Bill of Rights which were based on this:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689

    See “Provisions of the Act.”

    The main point of our 2nd Amendment is the the 4 words: “shall not be infringed” meaning the right already exists upon writing the 2nd Amendment, and is inalienable. It carries over from aforementioned 1689 British Bill of Rights, “Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law“

    I’m a passenger in car on trip right now so can’t watch Killer Mike vid, but been thinking a lot about how black people have been handling the NRA wrong: If they joined the NRA en masse, posted pics of themselves wearing NRA gear and holding NRA cards, the shit would hit the fucking fan.
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    if you listen to the radio lab link i posted you'll hear the the 2nd amendment wasn't even a thing until the back panthers used it in Oakland to police the police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKTaIY_Qbsk
    -Louie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    this is a good genuine interview and points out a lot of the duplicity of race in America
    God yes. I certainly think every progressive that considers them an advocate of diversity and social justice should digest the entire interview and accept the reality of that perspective.

    But think of all the NRA types who will get exposed to this. I no longer have any concern about his "choice in platform" considering that

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    WHOA, man, HOLY shit that Killer Mike conversation is incredible.

    Great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    if you listen to the radio lab link i posted you'll hear the the 2nd amendment wasn't even a thing until the back panthers used it in Oakland to police the police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKTaIY_Qbsk
    -Louie
    Yeah I was around back then, remember it, but I saw a REALLY good documentary about the Black Panthers, called “Vanguard of the Revolution,” and how the Black Panthers responded to police brutality against blacks by walking around as an armed militia with open-carry arms, right up until California passed a law repealing open carry:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F56O3kZ9qr0
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    Yeah that's an excellent doc that dispels a lot of the common beliefs about the Black Panthers. I don't think we have seen social movements with that level of guts and power since their era. 2Pac and Biggy came around and everyone became content with heros and idols instead of being part of a force. The BLM type groups of today really don't come close.

    I was at DeFremery Park a few months ago for a funeral. It was weird seeing the history still in the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    I was at DeFremery Park a few months ago for a funeral. It was weird seeing the history still in the park.
    Did they end up naming a section of the park after Bobby Hutton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Did they end up naming a section of the park after Bobby Hutton?
    Ya the "grove" area. I actually didn't know that it happened. I guess they used the 50th anniversary of the Black Panthers to do it.

    50 years later and Oakland police are even worse. Zero community involvement.

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    Damned shame, too

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    Oliver North to be president of the NRA.

    Ooooooookay then.

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    This MUST CHANGE.

    3 men charged with trafficking dozens of guns bought over Armslist.com to Chicago gang members

    Among the startling aspects of the probe by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was that many of the trafficked weapons were recovered by law enforcement within weeks or months of their resale — a metric known as “time to crime” that’s often used to identify guns that are being illegally trafficked.

    One gun sold outside Louisville in December 2016 was used just four months later in an armed carjacking in west suburban Westchester, according to the complaint. Another, purchased in May 2017, was found within three months on a man arrested for pointing the gun at someone during a verbal altercation on the street. Other weapons tied to the trafficking scheme quickly turned up during narcotics investigations, court-authorized searches or hidden under car seats during traffic stops, according to the charges.

    Armslist has come under increased scrutiny by gun control advocates in recent years because the online marketplace does not require a would-be purchaser to register or identify himself or herself in any way. In a 2017 gun trace report, the city of Chicago noted that the number of guns available on Armslist had jumped to 148,000 from 12,000 — a 12-fold increase — since 2011.

    The Chicago Tribune has reported that the Glock pistol used to kill Chicago police Cmdr. Paul Bauer had been sold through Armslist to a Milwaukee man in 2017 before winding up in the hands of a convicted felon who allegedly shot Bauer during a confrontation outside the Thompson Center in February.

    Armslist has also been at the center of at least two federal lawsuits in recent years in Illinois and Wisconsin alleging that its failure to screen potential buyers has led to acts of violence.

    In 2011, Demetry Smirnov, a Russian immigrant living in Canada, purchased a handgun though Armslist from a Seattle man even though federal law prohibits a private seller from transferring a firearm to residents of another state or country, the lawsuit alleged. Smirnov then went to a strip mall in west suburban Oak Brook and used the gun to fatally shoot Jitka Vesel, a woman he'd been accused of stalking.

    A year later in Milwaukee, Radcliffe Haughton bought a gun on Armslist even though he'd been named in a restraining order filed by his wife and therefore barred by state and federal law from possessing a firearm, another lawsuit alleged. Days later, he entered the spa and salon where his wife worked and opened fire, killing her and two others and wounding four. He then turned the gun on himself.

    The Illinois case was thrown out by a federal judge who ruled that Armslist merely facilitated the posting of ads for gun sales and was not responsible for vetting potential buyers.

    The Wisconsin suit was also dismissed on similar grounds, records show.

    Armslist could not be reached for comment, but lawyers for the site have noted in the past that users must click that they agree not to use its website for any illegal purpose.

    According to the charges unveiled Tuesday, Wright is a member of the “Coco and Cornell gang,” a faction of the Conservative Vice Lords named after two 16-year-old associates who were fatally shot in 2012.

    Henderson and Phillips used various names and email addresses to contact sellers via Armslist, including one email address that was registered in the name “Kobe Bryant,” according to the complaint. Several of the sellers interviewed by ATF agents identified Henderson as the person who purchased the weapons and described his white “muscle car,” and cellphone records placed both Henderson and Phillips at the scenes of many of the transactions, according to the charges.

    Wright, meanwhile, acted as a broker, using Facebook and other means to advertise the weapons purchased by Henderson and Phillips to his fellow gang members, according to the complaint.

    The charges included a number of Facebook photographs Wright allegedly posted of weapons for sale — including handguns with extended clips and laser sights, military-style rifles and machine pistols.

    In one transaction from August 2017, Wright sent a photo of nine handguns, an AR rifle and a bag filled with ammunition to a known gang member along with a price of $2,000, the charges alleged.

    After the gang member balked at the cost, Wright renegotiated a deal for six of the handguns — a conversation that was all captured on Facebook, the charges alleged.

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    Speaking of Chicago....




    (Before anyone freaks the hell out - yes, it's a sculpture promoting gun control. We haven't gotten quite this stupid...yet.)

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    I don't see a problem with that. If it takes a good guy with a gun, let's make sure all the good guys have them! Just remember to return it when you're done, or there's a late fee.

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    This just in.... another school shooting in Noblesville, Indiana: https://apnews.com/3054e67879c740fdb...source=Twitter

    And this is what really happening in America:


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    Given recent and never ending events, here's a topical little ditty that sounds all too familiar.


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    my nephews go to school near there, everyone their dad is a gun owner and trump supporter called to check if everything was OK, said "i don't want to hear anything about politics! and hung up, sorry your brother is a liberal Californian nut-job sorry if i give -Louie

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    Great. Mentally unstable person (who somehow had a license) shot up a restaurant in Oklahoma, and was stopped by - you guessed it - "good guys with guns". Naturally, Fox and the NRA are both jerking off about how "good guys with guns" are the solution, while completely ignoring the fact that a guy who was posting youtube videos about demons and being attacked by his refrigerator was legally allowed to buy a gun.

    We don't need MORE people with guns. We need fewer. Far, far, far, far fewer.

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    There's innocent people being killed by those who shouldn't be holding guns yet our dictator is more concerned about football players needing to stand up for the national anthem as well as pardon a dead boxer as a distraction for his failure with North Korea. America! We're the stupidest country on planet Earth. Hooray! Let's clap our hands for being morons!

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    I sincerely hope that these two events are unrelated. We'll likely find out more in a few hours.




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    When your President calls the press the "enemy of the people", no one should be surprised to see journalists getting shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Randazzo View Post
    I sincerely hope that these two events are unrelated. We'll likely find out more in a few hours.



    The fuck? He’s gone so far into his character that he’s lost reality if he felt ok sending that shit to people. It’s a stretch to say he “called for” this via private messages to a few journalists though. Unless he actually had an active role or was publicly making calls for it (no evidence either happened).

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    It's pretty ingenious how he created a character that looks like him, acts like him and believes what he believes.

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    Official: Suspect in newspaper shooting mutilated his fingers in apparent effort to prevent him from being easily ID'd. https://t.co/traQdcoT7Y

    Jesus christ...

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