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    Anywhere where some celebrity chef or whomever appeared at Saturday's march and they posted it on Instagram, they were flooded FOR TWO DAYS with awful comments, akin to "Unfollowing you, you stupid bitch" or "I used to respect you, now I have to unfollow you," etc. so the notion that white NRA members weren't paying attention to the marches on Saturday is false; they were paying attention, and they were visibly ANGRY about it, and blaming George Soros, "liberal commies," and a whole slew of others.


    Also, re that article's comment that the NRA only exists to make money for gun manufacturers: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.af69053ce4e4
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    talking to someone about the killer mike thing, and it occurred, to me when ever the right faces or more correctly places a wedge issue its always very black and white issue, so in this case either, we have to take everyone's gun impossible, let's have a war on war, or "no fighting in the war room". so while i could care less about stormy Daniels, i don't care what the idiot does on his free time, or how he values his marriage Clinton was different because, one it was an intern two he totally lied under oath. so that said what i do think is it's horrible the Mr. gay conversion therapy family values guy the VP. does not resign say a word. one of my main issues with the right and x-stains in general. is their level of hypocrisy. same you OK gay marriage doesn't mean you're going to get ass raped using the bathroom pro just because girls don't want to won't fuck you. doesn't mean guys will. now to mistakenly posting embarrassing links.
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    The full Killer Mike interview was posed. This is something everyone who posted in this thread for the last week should watch. This will be very enlightening. Every bit of it.

    https://www.nratv.com/series/noir/vi...r-less-freedom

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GFRCx5LJHI

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    this is a good genuine interview and points out a lot of the duplicity of race in America here is the NRA'S own websitehttps://home.nra.org/about-the-nra/ and history no mention of the second amendment, i will wager 90% of people don't know how how many amendments there are 27 so you can feel smart. the 2nd amendment. is vague and controversial even back in the day. I highly recommend a podcast call gun show which explores the history of guns in America. some may find it dry. but like my humor and martini's i prefer my info dry and to the point. as stated before. the right always seems to argue i the extremist black and white idiocy. so to be clear regulation, and prohibition are two clear and separate things now one ever screamed their coming for your cigarettes or cars office building or home all of which are regulated in some form or another. so to be extra clear gay marriage wont affect your marriage one way or another same as letting trans folks use public restrooms, or immigration. most of these things are about freedom of choice, which is the basis of democracy. which i thought the republican's were supposed to champion. the sole purpose of the government is the protection of it's citizen's as a collective. that is it. we have a lot more issues that threaten us as a whole such dismantling of the EPA, race inequality of income, opportunity and education. my opinion most of these Trump has made worse. good listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKTaIY_Qbsk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    i will wager 90% of people don't know how how many amendments there are 27 so you can feel smart.
    The first ten were the Bill of Rights which were based on this:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689

    See “Provisions of the Act.”

    The main point of our 2nd Amendment is the the 4 words: “shall not be infringed” meaning the right already exists upon writing the 2nd Amendment, and is inalienable. It carries over from aforementioned 1689 British Bill of Rights, “Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law“

    I’m a passenger in car on trip right now so can’t watch Killer Mike vid, but been thinking a lot about how black people have been handling the NRA wrong: If they joined the NRA en masse, posted pics of themselves wearing NRA gear and holding NRA cards, the shit would hit the fucking fan.
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    if you listen to the radio lab link i posted you'll hear the the 2nd amendment wasn't even a thing until the back panthers used it in Oakland to police the police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKTaIY_Qbsk
    -Louie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    this is a good genuine interview and points out a lot of the duplicity of race in America
    God yes. I certainly think every progressive that considers them an advocate of diversity and social justice should digest the entire interview and accept the reality of that perspective.

    But think of all the NRA types who will get exposed to this. I no longer have any concern about his "choice in platform" considering that

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    WHOA, man, HOLY shit that Killer Mike conversation is incredible.

    Great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    if you listen to the radio lab link i posted you'll hear the the 2nd amendment wasn't even a thing until the back panthers used it in Oakland to police the police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKTaIY_Qbsk
    -Louie
    Yeah I was around back then, remember it, but I saw a REALLY good documentary about the Black Panthers, called “Vanguard of the Revolution,” and how the Black Panthers responded to police brutality against blacks by walking around as an armed militia with open-carry arms, right up until California passed a law repealing open carry:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F56O3kZ9qr0
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    Yeah that's an excellent doc that dispels a lot of the common beliefs about the Black Panthers. I don't think we have seen social movements with that level of guts and power since their era. 2Pac and Biggy came around and everyone became content with heros and idols instead of being part of a force. The BLM type groups of today really don't come close.

    I was at DeFremery Park a few months ago for a funeral. It was weird seeing the history still in the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    I was at DeFremery Park a few months ago for a funeral. It was weird seeing the history still in the park.
    Did they end up naming a section of the park after Bobby Hutton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Did they end up naming a section of the park after Bobby Hutton?
    Ya the "grove" area. I actually didn't know that it happened. I guess they used the 50th anniversary of the Black Panthers to do it.

    50 years later and Oakland police are even worse. Zero community involvement.

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    Damned shame, too

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