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    The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies, although I can see what people may not like about it. I agree that the boat thing is not necessarily great and there are many other things that aren't perfect. I just like Nolan's vision, directing and storytelling so much that those negative points barely change my opinion about the film itself. Same goes for Inception, which has also HUGE problems, but when the credits roll I'm still sitting there in complete awe.

    I also absolutely adore Batman Begins, which in my opinion has one of the most epic and emotional scenes of any Batman movie: the training sequence with Ra's Al Ghul. A masterpiece in every way.

    You can't really compare Batman Begins with The Dark Knight because they are completely different films (one being a fairly dark superhero origin movie and the other a thriller in a superhero setting), but I really love both of them equally. Unfortunately I was completely underwhelmed by the The Dark Knight Rises, which similar to the Pirates sequels fails to trigger me emotionally. TDKR at least tried, but I remember there was just something off about it. Didn't seem as sincere as the first two.

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    Con Air is fantastically awesome.

    HATERS GONNA HATE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marodi View Post
    Con Air is fantastically awesome.

    HATERS GONNA HATE.

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    ...I don't get why people love Star Wars so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niggo View Post
    The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies, although I can see what people may not like about it. I agree that the boat thing is not necessarily great and there are many other things that aren't perfect. I just like Nolan's vision, directing and storytelling so much that those negative points barely change my opinion about the film itself. Same goes for Inception, which has also HUGE problems, but when the credits roll I'm still sitting there in complete awe.

    I also absolutely adore Batman Begins, which in my opinion has one of the most epic and emotional scenes of any Batman movie: the training sequence with Ra's Al Ghul. A masterpiece in every way.

    You can't really compare Batman Begins with The Dark Knight because they are completely different films (one being a fairly dark superhero origin movie and the other a thriller in a superhero setting), but I really love both of them equally. Unfortunately I was completely underwhelmed by the The Dark Knight Rises, which similar to the Pirates sequels fails to trigger me emotionally. TDKR at least tried, but I remember there was just something off about it. Didn't seem as sincere as the first two.
    The Dark Knight got 94% on Rotten Tomatoes and was unbelievably overrated and overhyped. I did not enjoy it and Batmans ridiculous voice kept taking me out of the film as I thought it laughable which is an actual controversial opinion surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndItKeepsRepeating View Post
    ...I don't get why people love Star Wars so much.
    I am proud to say that I've never actually watched Star Wars (or any of the sequels/prequels). Like, not even for a second. It all looks very unappealing and I'm sure I'd hate it.

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    Fuck every Pirates movie made after the second one, won't watch any more
    Fuck every single Michael Bay transformers film after the first
    Jurassic World fucking sucked
    Terminator 3 sucked
    Terminator Salvation sucked
    Terminator Genisys probably sucked, I didn't watch it
    Alien Resurrection is nothing less than punishment from cruel unknowable gods
    Prometheus was fucking garbage
    Alien Covenant is Prometheus 2 and is also fucking dogshit
    Fuck AvP and fuck AvP2
    Not one of the fucking Mummy movies was any good or in any way memorable
    Fuck the people who want to make Beetlejuice 2
    Fuck the fetid walking piles of human dogshit who consider the fucking NOTION of Labyrinth fucking goddamned Two
    Fuck the Hobbit films
    Fuck this
    Fuck that
    Fuck everything
    It's all dogshit
    fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

    Predators was kinda good actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    The Dark Knight got 94% on Rotten Tomatoes and was unbelievably overrated and overhyped. I did not enjoy it and Batmans ridiculous voice kept taking me out of the film as I thought it laughable which is an actual controversial opinion surely?
    Co-signing this. TDK was all style above substance. Which is fine for a superhero movie, but Nolan's gritty and oh so "realistic" take on the franchise fell flat on its face, in my opinion.
    Those films acted like sequels or relatives to films like Heat or L.A. Confidential in terms of scope and narrative, but what they actually did, was randomly glue-ing together action and drama scenes in a way that made those films 2 hour long trailers with messed up scripts full of plotholes.
    Nolan seems to be a hybrid of Kubrick and Michael Bay.

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    The Accountant (2016): stupid.
    John Wick 2 (2017): incredibly, unbelievably stupid.

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    As a franchise Star Trek has lost its way, real bad. Paramount has mishandled the motion picture franchise, certainly so with the soft reboot Abramsverse films, but the problems go back even further to the nextgen films being generally meandering and/or unnecessary when looked at in context with the nextgen TV series. Also Paramount/CBS was showing signs of faltering with Voyager which while generally good it was certainly not on par with the best of TNG or DS9, but they finally dropped the ball completely with Enterprise which was a series concept nobody was really asking for anyway. The poor ratings and ultimate cancellation are it’s real legacy. It doesn’t feel like Star Trek: Discovery is going to be the franchise savior. It sounds like there have been considerable production issues, and that its being relegated to CBS All Access makes me question how much CBS even believes in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    As a franchise Star Trek has lost its way, real bad. Paramount has mishandled the motion picture franchise, certainly so with the soft reboot Abramsverse films, but the problems go back even further to the nextgen films being generally meandering and/or unnecessary when looked at in context with the nextgen TV series. Also Paramount/CBS was showing signs of faltering with Voyager which while generally good it was certainly not on par with the best of TNG or DS9, but they finally dropped the ball completely with Enterprise which was a series concept nobody was really asking for anyway. The poor ratings and ultimate cancellation are it’s real legacy. It doesn’t feel like Star Trek: Discovery is going to be the franchise savior. It sounds like there have been considerable production issues, and that its being relegated to CBS All Access makes me question how much CBS even believes in it.
    i'm also REALLY confused because i thought Discovery was taking place in the prime star trek universe and it looks 100% abrams. what's up with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    i'm also REALLY confused because i thought Discovery was taking place in the prime star trek universe and it looks 100% abrams. what's up with that?
    Sorry to nerdrage here, but…

    The visuals in the trailer are confusing. Tagline puts events of Discovery just 10 years prior to TOS supposedly in the prime timeline(?). But the aesthetics in the trailer don’t seem to fit that at all. Bridge looks generally dimly lit like a seedy lounge with bizarre lighting angles. It looks like Quark should be running a dabo tournament in this room.



    The uniforms look way more connected to Enterprise era than to TOS. Plus if this is supposedly set in prime universe then we already have a reference to what the Starfleet uniform should look like around 10 years before the Kirk five year mission on the enterprise. “The Cage” episode takes place in that timeframe and the uniforms look like this,





    And if those are supposed to be Klingons in the trailer… why?

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    The tendency in social media and seemingly a lot of movie blogging sites and/or critics to rate movies/tv shows on their level of "wokeness" is really getting tiresome to me.

    As a reader of those and a film enthusiast there are only so much "takes" on why a tv show "has a race/woman/rape problem" or why a new movie offers a certain type of story or heroine "we need now" I can take (see the "controversy" about Blade Runner 2049 from last year for example).
    Same goes for all that hyperbole of "groundbreaking", "powerful", "revolutionary" and so on. Those are not terms to be thrown around so likely... like being applied to, say, a fucking superhero movie with a half naked model flying around in a mess of a story. Let it be what it is and not try to turn something so banal into Schindler's List.

    That's not to say it's wrong to call out art that's truly problematic. But let's not get carried away with the hysteria, please.

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    Constantine (the movie) is not nearly as bad as a lot of people say it is. Sure, Keanu's voice is monotone throughout but I think it's due to Constantine's blazé attitude. Shia LeBeouf is a hoot as Chas, proving he is talented despite the awful Transformers movies.

    And my darling Tilda can do no wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marodi View Post
    Constantine (the movie) is not nearly as bad as a lot of people say it is. Sure, Keanu's voice is monotone throughout but I think it's due to Constantine's blazé attitude. Shia LeBeouf is a hoot as Chas, proving he is talented despite the awful Transformers movies.

    And my darling Tilda can do no wrong.



    I forgot Conan O'Brien was in that.

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    In a broad sense: (X-Men Movies and Shows) > MCU

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    American Hustle, the films everyone was going mad over how good it was a few years back, was the dullest film i've ever seen in cinema's. It was just an excuse for great actors to act great...the story was just SO BORING!

    ...but that's just me.

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    Watched it again yesterday and no, Logan was a mediocre movie. I can't believe how overly invested people become with an X-Men movie. While it indeed switches up the formula a bit and plays more on the emotional side combining it with an R-Rating it only shines that bright because it follows movies that didn't even try to deliver the matter in a serious way. So while that movie was the best we've seen from Wolverine in the cinematic universe together with the last scene of Apocalypse and parts of Days of Future's Past, this movie gives nothing to me, it's proposed depth is rather shallow compared to other critically acclaimed movies and hype is surreal.

    With that being said, the overthinking that goes on with comic book movies these days just baffles me. They are essentially kids movies or aimed at a fan audience while being approachably by casual enthusiasts as well. But please stop making these movies seem like there's more to it other than fun, furious action, copious amounts of (mostly well done) CGI and some A-list actors involved. It's a roller coaster ride, sometimes a really entertaining one, but as @r_z pointed out no Schindler's List.

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