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    Quote Originally Posted by acrid avid jam shred View Post
    I've started listening through The Cure's records, and I'm really liking Pornography atm. I love how intense, icy and rhythmic the songs are.
    That's such an amazingly dark, visceral album. It's probably my favorite of their albums, if I had to pick just one. It's like 8 hard punches to the gut, and so immersive in its ability to transport you to a very grimy, cold dark place. Like Disintegration, every song is essential and tells a story. But Disintegration has such lush, dreamy production whereas this is at the opposite end of the spectrum, and almost nightmarish in comparison. I'm still not sure why they didn't go with A Strange Day for the single though, because that seems like the closest thing to radio-friendly on the album.

    Are you doing chronological order? Prepare for quite a ride haha.

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    The great thing about The Cure is even their worst albums are still pretty good. Can't say the same for many of their contemporaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    That's such an amazingly dark, visceral album. It's probably my favorite of their albums, if I had to pick just one. It's like 8 hard punches to the gut, and so immersive in its ability to transport you to a very grimy, cold dark place. Like Disintegration, every song is essential and tells a story. But Disintegration has such lush, dreamy production whereas this is at the opposite end of the spectrum, and almost nightmarish in comparison. I'm still not sure why they didn't go with A Strange Day for the single though, because that seems like the closest thing to radio-friendly on the album.

    Are you doing chronological order? Prepare for quite a ride haha.
    I've been jumping around a bit, listening to bits and pieces from each record, but I probably should've started with Three Imaginary Boys first.

    One Hundred Years is so good, it establishes the tone of Pornography perfectly. Robert's vocals and those drum machine beats are awesome.

    I listened to Disintegration earlier today, and I like it, but I reckon the album should end with the title track. Homesick and Untitled just seem to drag on a bit too much for me. Plainsong and Pictures of You start off the album wonderfully though. I love how they both take time to develop, instead of getting straight to the point.

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    You can probably skip Three Imaginary Boys, imo. Seventeen Seconds is where is truly begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    You can probably skip Three Imaginary Boys, imo. Seventeen Seconds is where is truly begins.
    I would not advise skipping three imaginary boys unless you're skipping it in favor of boys don't cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    I would not advise skipping three imaginary boys unless you're skipping it in favor of boys don't cry.
    I found three imaginary boys boring and completely directionless. The secojd bonus disc is pretty cool though. Never heard Boys Don't Cry (us version). Not sure why but I haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    I would not advise skipping three imaginary boys unless you're skipping it in favor of boys don't cry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    I found three imaginary boys boring and completely directionless. The secojd bonus disc is pretty cool though. Never heard Boys Don't Cry (us version). Not sure why but I haven't.
    three imaginary boys is far superior to the US re-release boys don't cry. also, i really enjoy the album, as it's kind of a proto-cure doing poppy post-punk. it's by no means my favorite, but it's still a fun listen, and it's almost like what they would have been in an alternate timeline.

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    Top is still a fucking masterpiece. Seems to be the most divisive album. People either love it or hate it. I would take Top over Head on the Door any day (and HOTD is great)

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    The Top is ace! It's so weird but it's really the stsrt of The Cure's mix of meloncholy and lighter pop stuff. And I absolutely love Pornography. It's such an amazing album. It carries so much weight and emotion to it. There's really nothing else like it. It's definitely an album that may not grasp you at first but if you take the time to appreciate it, it's fucking amazing. Darkly beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    The great thing about The Cure is even their worst albums are still pretty good. Can't say the same for many of their contemporaries.
    I agree! So many people hate their self titled and 4:13 and yeah, it's not their strongest albums but each have some strong songs on them like "US or Them" or "Freakshow." Though I think I'm in the minority in liking "The 13th."

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    Yeah, I'd still call 3IB worth anyone's time. There are small hints of what would come on 17. It's not a band's best beginning but it's a stronger one than some.

    The Top is great. Not a favorite but far from bad. Very addled, spastic and frenetic. I like it just fine, but it's not equal to what came before or after.

    Love most of the self-titled's songs still. Shame about the production. Hope some of that can be remedied on the eventual reissue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Top is still a fucking masterpiece. Seems to be the most divisive album. People either love it or hate it. I would take Top over Head on the Door any day (and HOTD is great)
    i also love that The Top is essentially Robert's "solo" album (because he played pretty much everything but drums, as everyone else was too fucking high to do anything productive) and he really got to explore some avenues he normally wouldn't have. i thoroughly enjoy it from beginning to end.

    and head on the door is great, though i would be happier if "six different ways" wasn't on it and was instead replaced by "stop dead"

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    i also love that The Top is essentially Robert's "solo" album (because he played pretty much everything but drums, as everyone else was too fucking high to do anything productive) and he really got to explore some avenues he normally wouldn't have. i thoroughly enjoy it from beginning to end.

    and head on the door is great, though i would be happier if "six different ways" wasn't on it and was instead replaced by "stop dead"
    The stuff he was doing with The Glove clearly influenced "The Top" as well...I think he even said a few "Top" songs were going to be used for The Glove but he decided to use them on a Cure album because he liked them so much ("Dressing Up" and 'Caterpillar" specifically)

    I am still trying to figure out how "Exploding Boy" did not make HOTD and "Screw" did

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    three imaginary boys is far superior to the US re-release boys don't cry. also, i really enjoy the album, as it's kind of a proto-cure doing poppy post-punk. it's by no means my favorite, but it's still a fun listen, and it's almost like what they would have been in an alternate timeline.
    When I saw them in Cleveland quite a few years ago now, they did just about half the 3IB/BDC album in their final encore and it was such an energetic way to end a set. 10.15 into Killing an Arab is pretty much the perfect way to finish a Cure show. Aside from A Forest from the Show video, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    The stuff he was doing with The Glove clearly influenced "The Top" as well...I think he even said a few "Top" songs were going to be used for The Glove but he decided to use them on a Cure album because he liked them so much ("Dressing Up" and 'Caterpillar" specifically)

    I am still trying to figure out how "Exploding Boy" did not make HOTD and "Screw" did
    i like "screw" fine and i think it works in the context of the album, but "exploding boy" is probably one of the best songs robert has ever written. i somehow heard the alkaline trio version years before i ever heard the cure version, and it's my favorite thing alk3 ever did haha.

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    Exploding Boy is amazing! Definitely one of their best bsides. I was so fucking happy when they played it on their 2016 tour.

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    I've been listening to the band non-stop over the past week. Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me and Faith are so damn good! I haven't really settled on a favourite yet as well, each album has a fair share of awesome songs.

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    I may never settle on a favourite. It'll always shift depending on mood. It took me over 10 years to appreciate Pornography (from first listen) at all, then it spent a brief spell as a favourite. I think "Disintegration" is the only constant for me. I went through a Wish revitalisation phase last year after seeing them live (but they didn't do "End" which I was really hoping for at my slot)

    pretty stoked to rediscover bloodflowers and self titled in particular as part of the re-issues if they do pick up.

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    Robert Smith interviews from the weekend:

    https://www.timeout.com/london/music...othic-any-more

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...m-the-opposite

    Even though I'll not be seeing The Cure this year, I'm still exciting to be going to Meltdown for Nine Inch Nails at least, and I am kind of hoping for a Bob spotting, if not a special guest appearance.

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    I just spotted a wish 12” in the wild, £100. So damn tempted. Might see if I can part ex my original The Fragile

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    I'm just happy whenever The Cure appear in the news. Means they're still active! Hopefully they'll do a world tour next year!

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    With all the stuff in the archives it still seems odd RS is out promoting a 28 year old remix album that basically was dismissed within weeks of its initial release....Should be focusing on the Wish deluxe edition etc

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    Apparently Wish is next. In a past interview, he mentioned he got back around to that. I mean, I was surprised they gave the reissue treatment to Mixed Up. And I don't even like it all that much. But what makes it for me are the new mixes on Torn Down. They are pretty awesome.

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    Well worth I listen I would expect - Robert Smith takes over for the Iggy Pop show on BBC Radio, this Friday:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b5sy2j

    Reminds me of the time Robert covered the John Peel show, very shortly before he died: http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/21_October_2004
    Not a bad set of tunes, but I have to say Siouxsie did a better job the previous night.

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    https://www.marksaunders.com/the-cure-mixed-up-1

    There's a new 2018 Mark Saunders remix of Prayers for Rain that was quietly discovered. Too bad that wasn't included on the Mixed Up remaster.

    In unrelated news, I'm actually going to a Cure cover band show tonight lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaydraven View Post
    Apparently Wish is next. In a past interview, he mentioned he got back around to that. I mean, I was surprised they gave the reissue treatment to Mixed Up. And I don't even like it all that much. But what makes it for me are the new mixes on Torn Down. They are pretty awesome.
    I find original Mixed Up is really good at full blast driving around on a nice sunny day. I got the deluxe edition (along with Bad Witch, of course) yesterday.

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    Oh that wikia has download links for the peel show! I’ve been after that since I lost my recording forever ago. Yay

    Robert was pissed that the show was quite heavily edited, he posted a rant on his website but took it down when the news about Peel surfaced. I preserved it: https://jmtd.net/music/smith_peel/

    Heh he chose the same Placebo track in both shows, 14 years apart

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    The liner notes for the 3CD Mixed Up list three remixes that were found and not included on the album but are apparently available digitally

    primary (extended mix 1981 - remastered 2018)
    the lovecats (extended version 1983 - remastered 2018)
    inbetween days (extended version 1985 - remastered 2018)
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    Anyone know the chances of when the Cure is set to do another major tour? I was looking at setlist.fm last night and I can't believe they haven't been to St. Louis since Bloodflowers came out in 2000.

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    I think odds aren’t great. They’ve toured for about ten years and Robert is finally talking about writing again

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    I think he just said see you next year at the conclusion of their Meltdown show a few minutes ago, but a) it's hard to hear him speak at a show and b) that doesn't really mean anything.

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