Page 23 of 77 FirstFirst ... 13 21 22 23 24 25 33 73 ... LastLast
Results 661 to 690 of 2288

Thread: Marilyn Manson - Born Villain

  1. #661
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Donegal, Ireland
    Posts
    2,439
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    I enjoyed THEOL as a cheesy pop-rock album though.

  2. #662
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    186
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    RE: Manson's poor form since HW: After seeing Ministry's 99 percent video I now know it could be so, so much worse.

    I'm still really looking forward to BV, and the beauty of the digital age is that I can swap out the cover.jpg for any one of my choosing and not look at the 'official' one.

    No Reflection, doesn't seem like the typical single either I thought he would lead off the 'new era' with the generic Manson single like Arma..., Mobscene, Rock is Dead etc.

    The hint of spooky kids/portrait influence in bot No Refection and Overneath is also another thing to look forward to.

    I'm not expecting it to be better than ACSS or MA but something to equal portrait will suffice.

  3. #663
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    175
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    The single does seem pretty generic Manson like Armageddon, Beautiful, Disposable, etc. to me but I like it.

    I don't expect the album to come near Portrait, ACSS or MA but I enjoy EMDM and THEOL and know that we are in a different period of Manson these days. He is not the same person and there's no way he could stay that same person forever. No one does, we all change and evolve.

    Manson is a broken person still, it looks to me. I don't know him so I think he may be very happy and seem well at times but I just get the vibe he's very broken still. I think that's something a lot of people can relate to, especially Manson fans, and if you can't well good for you, you're a very rare case.

    I know I feel like a broken person sometimes. So many people feel that way, a lot of struggles and heartache, Manson's music does a good job at empowering people I think. I think he's a smart person and even though he's not the greatest example sometimes he's still able to get some good points across.

    So sure, Manson's songs might not always be the most technical or brilliantly written songs, but if they make you feel good, empowered, want to stand up, dance, be active, rock out, whatever, that's what is important. So many hit songs, take Rock And Roll All Nite by KISS for example, aren't necessarily that impressive feats but they get a crowd going and the song sticks in your head and you feel like rocking.

  4. #664
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Ontario... soon™
    Posts
    1,321
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Regarding the team up with Rammstein.

    Manson's performance here was so piss poor in comparison to Rammstein i mean they're the shining artists here in my opinion and have aged very well. It's not a competition and I'm not trying to pick sides, i like a lot of Manson's older material and select new stuff but as far as his concert presence it's just shot to shit, he's so breathy now and tired looking, he can barely sing his songs decently anymore, sure he lets out a few screeches here and there but that doesn't make up for anything. Look at the performance of Rammstein, so much more energy and presence and professionalism and they're not even moving around the stage anywhere (kinda hard to move around stationed at the drums and keys but in regards to Paul, Richard, Ollie).

    Actually at one point it looked like Manson while appearing to stupor around was going to do a face plant. Sloppy, just sloppy.
    Last edited by thelastdisciple; 03-24-2012 at 03:04 AM.

  5. #665
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Gothenburg, Sweden
    Posts
    622
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Ain't it dead yet?

  6. #666
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    1,935
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Planet of the apes View Post
    @hobo skinny puppy reference on a nails board, ballsy and full of win!!!


    As for Manson's size. I dont think people realize how tall he is. I am six foot six and as my twenties came to an end I filled out. Manson is obviously not taking care of himself, and I think he looks pretty good considering how bad he could look. Not everyone is five foot five and able to maintain that douche bag, sitting in a coffe shop ''Im a poet'' look forever.
    Qoute of the day.

  7. #667
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    186
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    In Manson's defense, his live voice has never been great, his stage presence always meant that it didn't matter what he sounded like.
    Recently though he looks like a 40+ year old trying to do what he did and sing like he did in his 20s.

    Some artists, like Trent for example, can recognize they aren't 26 anymore and change enough that it still sounds vital and able to perform with the same intensity.

    Imagine if Trent tried to recreate the Woodstock (or any Self Destruct era) show today, it would look pathetic.

    I don't think Manson doesn't know this, but I don't think he has figured out anything else he can do. It doesn't help that he doesn't play any instruments and live role has always been 'be Marilyn Manson'... Other than stopping all touring, doing only select shows and making albums, I don't know what else he could do either.

    Personally I don't like Gary Numan live these days, but his albums are great and that's how I'm going to take Manson from now on.

  8. #668
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    I'm still pissed about the Trent and Manson fallout. Manson basically betrayed Trent after using him like a fucking tampon to get where he wanted. Then he played him for a fool by ditching him and becoming more popular. What the hell kind of friend is that? Born Villain? Yeah, he's a villain, alright.

  9. #669
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    64
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    fuck.

    it's 1998 again

  10. #670
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by antiskum View Post
    fuck.

    it's 1998 again
    I know, I know. This is all old stuff. That still doesn't make it any more fair that Manson is getting so much press lately. Trent should be getting all the accolades, not Marilyn fucking Manson.

  11. #671
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    1,150
    Mentioned
    103 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Krogan Warlord View Post
    That still doesn't make it any more fair that Manson is getting so much press lately. Trent should be getting all the accolades...
    Manson's on tour and promoting a new album and Reznor won a fucking Oscar, ffs.

  12. #672
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    So did Phil Collins and Prince but that doesn't make me want to rush out and buy anything. Trent should be more popular, but Manson overshadowed him just like Snoop did to Dre and Eminem did to...well, Dre.

  13. #673
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Donegal, Ireland
    Posts
    2,439
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Trent should be more popular, but Manson overshadowed him

    This is only true if you're hanging around with angsty 14 year olds. And even THEN, that's debatable.

  14. #674
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Well Googling "Trent Reznor" I got 6,190,000 results.

    "Nine Inch Nails" was 22,900,000.

    "Marilyn Manson" yielded 38,900,000.

    That's more than NIN and Trent combined.

    Also, "Phil Collins" was 24,500,000. /debate

  15. #675
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    In the undertow.
    Posts
    1,368
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    People really think Manson is more 'relevant' than Trent...?

    Maybe a decade ago. Maybe.

  16. #676
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    It's the Gaga factor. She had him on that stupid remix and now all of a sudden everybody thinks Manson is the cat's meow. All of that fame and fortune should be Trent's and Trent's alone. All of it. It's not fucking fair, that's all I'm saying.

  17. #677
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Smithtown, New York
    Posts
    1,016
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Are you drunk? Where on earth is Manson "the cat's meow"?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

  18. #678
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Donegal, Ireland
    Posts
    2,439
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Are you drunk? Where on earth is Manson "the cat's meow"?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
    Dude, he used Phil Collins in his argument. We are not worthy of this bastion of pop culture in here.

  19. #679
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    In places that have Google?

  20. #680
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    I never looked at it that way before. Thanks, man.

  21. #681
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    64
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    the only talk of manson in the media these days is in reference to his weight problem, his awful live show, or the possibility of him dating someone more relevant/popular than he is now.

    in contrast, the press are far more favorable towards trent reznor, treating him as a legend.

    just give pitchfork a search for both artists and see what comes up. if they aren't the 'taste-makers' of recent times, i don't know who are.

  22. #682
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    1,935
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    This recent convo is juvenile.

  23. #683
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    1,865
    Mentioned
    43 Post(s)
    You're measuring the relevancy of Trent Reznor by the Google hits of Marilyn Manson. The problem is not Trent Reznor's. It is yours.

  24. #684
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Vancouver BC
    Posts
    4,838
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Whoa whoa wait. At what point did this thread even enter the realm of defending Trent Reznor against Marilyn Manson?? REALLY? I'm pretty sure Britney Spears will pull up more Google hits than Picasso. Ask me which one is more culturally relevant.

  25. #685
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jessamineny View Post
    You're measuring the relevancy of Trent Reznor by the Google hits of Marilyn Manson. The problem is not Trent Reznor's. It is yours.
    So you admit that I'm right?

  26. #686
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Donegal, Ireland
    Posts
    2,439
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    There's a whole lot of trolling going on...

  27. #687
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Vancouver BC
    Posts
    4,838
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Dammit I was under the assumption that you were just someone who was delusional enough to think that a washed up guy who was famous a decade ago and hasn't released anything worthy of listening to more than once was cool, but now it's leaning more towards troll behavior. Disappointing. Oh, and the last time I saw NIN was in Seattle at Key Arena which was sold out in minutes. Saw MM the same year back home here in Vancouver at a venue called the Queen Elizabeth Theatre. A venue which is normally held for smaller acts and mid-level bands. It was half empty. Do people even fail to realize that at the PEAK of both acts' popularity, NIN was still the bigger draw, or is it just me?

  28. #688
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Upstate NY
    Posts
    1,865
    Mentioned
    43 Post(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Krogan Warlord View Post
    So you admit that I'm right?
    ????? I'm saying you're using failed reasoning.

  29. #689
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    45
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Anyway, that was fun. Born villain.

  30. #690
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Vancouver BC
    Posts
    4,838
    Mentioned
    47 Post(s)
    Exhausted troll is exhausted.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions