So I think I'm doomed never to see a proper elaborate NIN show
http://thequietus.com/articles/14651...reznor-grammys
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So I think I'm doomed never to see a proper elaborate NIN show
http://thequietus.com/articles/14651...reznor-grammys
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Totally ready for the facepalms here - but to be honest, I feel slightly conned - I invited friends along to this on the basis of 'look at this amazing show that NIN put on', referencing both Tension and LITS, and on the back of TR himself saying they'd be coming over with 'all the trimmings' on Zane Lowe's show, just before tickets went on sale (I think that was the timing anyway, certainly before and not after we bought tickets. Coincidence? I think not).Originally Posted by WorzelG
Don't get me wrong, I will undoubtedly still have the time of my life, but I now feel like I've kind of conned two friends into going on the basis of 'most elaborate show you'll ever see' - they're fans, but not 'sit on ETS for two hours a day' types...and to be honest, all three of us really wanted to experience something that ticked both musical and visual boxes. Leaves a slightly sour taste.
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I feel the same. Trent's promises - lol. And they spent an entire month arseing about for that pointless Grammys performance. What a waste
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I'm prepared for the facepalms here as well, but...this IS your fault. You promised your friends something that you didn't actually KNOW you were going to get (Trent saying "all the trimmings" didn't mean full Tension production). You might have done a bit more research as well, since both Lights In The Sky and Tension productions never left the Americas and the shows in Europe are usually more stripped down in terms of production. Not trying to be an asshole about it, but blaming Trent is kind of silly.
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So what you're saying is we've been disappointed internationally so many times that we should just be used to it.
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Yes. Sorry if that's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's the truth. Trent has never (to my knowledge) brought full production over to Europe on the tours that had full production, so why would you expect it? Because Trent makes some vague comment that boils down to the same thing that all bands say when they're embarking on a tour ("We're bringing it! Fuck yeah!")? You can be mad that he doesn't EVER bring it over, but to be mad about something he never promised in the first place is a bit ridiculous.
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I'm a hope springs eternal kind of person, I don't go around in life expecting to be disappointed which is probably really weird considering my music taste. I'm very glass half full
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There's nothing wrong with that, but you can't blame him for not delivering what he never promised to deliver in the first place.
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Disagree. Whatever history there was with European (and other territories) getting less than USA - understandably, I admit, due to the cost of carting that show around, the fact that he made a point of saying that, mid-Tension, suggested that was exactly what we were getting. What else could it have meant?!
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Like I said, Trent's remark is basically the same thing that every band says before a tour that's being promoted. Unless he said "We're bringing the production over to the UK", I wouldn't have expected it. Trent's reputation on that subject supersedes any vague comments he might make.
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'We're coming over with all the bells and whistles', is what he said - pretty much the same thing in my book.
Unless it's actually that - some bells and whistles, and I just REALLY misunderstood what he meant...
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Yes, in YOUR book.
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Ok, Tension never left the US, you have a point there. But they brought LITS down to South America, which is even harder to do than Europe. I think Trent was just too bored of that format to bring it over to Europe.
Not to mention the festival production, which, as I said before, was not quite LITS, but it was far more than what they're currently doing. They took that shit to Asia, Europe, and the US.
I trust Trent, and I honestly believe we'll see a screen pop up when they hit festivals. As he said it himself, when it's just 4 guys onstage, it tends to lose people's attention. It won't lose mine, but I'm not the only person watching that gig.
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Yeah, I kinda wonder if the Japan production is the same thing they'll bring down to South America. To tens of thousands of people at a time. On festivals. Which are broadcast to the world then uploaded to YouTube.
It reminds me of how they originally planned to "wing it" on the first reunion shows until they heard they were headlining the same festivals as the likes of Beyoncé, and "Beyoncé's not gonna wing it", so they came up with that really really awesome festival production. Not LITS-level, but still blowing every other act out of the water.
If they bring that exact same festival production to South America, I'll be very happy. I don't care if it's a repeat, it looked great and provided some setlist variety.
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If they brought something of the festival production level to the UK I'd be very happy too. It doesn't have to be Tension or the 8 piece band, just something a bit special and not just white strobe lights that were actively irritating like in 2009, especially as they are playing arenas where a load of people will have crap views and not be able to see the band playing. (I'm just relieved that I got presale tickets so I'm close to the stage)
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