Add Violence Back Cover...ARG?

[alfonso99]

I cross-posted this in the NTAE thread, as well.

I believe I may have found a hidden message in the Burning Bright music video. I watched it again today on a computer monitor, 27", 1080P, and sitting about 10-12" away from the screen. I turned the sound off. Let your eyes de-focus, look at the center of the screen and imagine the dark areas of the video are coming out of the screen, as if it were a 3D effect. It might even be helpful to imagine you are watching the VR portions of the 'Less Than' video. You'll notice that the dark areas form letters flashing and scrolling across the screen. If you can now see the letters, imagine that they are scrolling from right to left across your screen and you will see the phrase 'NOT THE ACTUAL EVENTS' repeated over and over, and the NIN logo appears randomly on the screen. Someone earlier mentioned the poem "The Tyger" and I believe that may be key to seeing the message:

Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

The Burning Bright music video is bisected vertically. [EDIT: actually I think this bisecting line is an optical illusion. You can make it move by blocking portions of the screen].

Not sure if there's anything else in there, or anything that relates to Add Violence. Also, I have a headache now.

I thought I was seeing zoomed in lettering going across as well, but could not make anything out of it.

https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/tyger

[2020k]

Something new found in the physical component over at Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nin/comment...wait_a_second/

[madpew]

Something new found in the physical component over at Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nin/comment...wait_a_second/

besides the line of text that's not in the lyrics it might also be noteworthy that the leading [P] and the trailing [Q] are the only inverted characters on that page that aren't [S].

[Skullton]

The video frames have definite columns. You can really see them clearly if you turn your screen sideways to watch the video (making them horizontal). I wonder if only displaying every Nth frame would clear it up? I would tae a wild guess that n=8 just because of the octal division of the dials on the simulation machine. I also wonder if viewing it through an active shuttered 3D system would reveal anything (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shutter_3D_system) - anyone have a pair of these?

Also wondering about glasses free 3D tech such as this (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4269274/). In short, the screen is divided into columns and set up so your left and right eyes only see every other column. Given the apparent column divisions here, that might reveal something.

attempting to go through it frame by frame. there is a definite split down the middle all the way through. I havent seen any discernible pattern or hidden images but maybe if somebody can split the video and run them side by side like a landscape or maybe flip them. not sure but could be something

[DRanged691]

There's only so many times I can watch that video without triggering seizures but I happened to pause at the right time to see this...
http://i.imgur.com/c9dz8UP.png

[Toadflax]

Something new found in the physical component over at Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nin/comment...wait_a_second/

Yeah, @Hesitation_Marks posted this a few pages ago as well as on Facebook and Reddit. I pointed out on Facebook that this book exists, but I'm guessing it's not related in a meaningful way.

[bgalbraith]

I can sort of see what you are referencing. I see letters, possibly numbers, that flash on the screen...but who knows...could be seeing things that aren't there.

Computational Neuroscientist here. Not to deflate the enthusiasm for finding meaning in the video, but be careful thinking you are seeing real things. The brain is conditioned to look for patterns and, in the presence of constant or information free (i.e. fully random) inputs, will begin hallucinating them (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_effect).

I've looked frame-by-frame at segments of the video, and as I posted earlier, they don't appear correlated, they look like noise, but generated from something like Perlin noise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perlin_noise). There are indeed what appear to be sharp ridges, which may just be the effect of tweaking parameters in the noise generator, not meaningful signal being masked out.

[Mike]

The video frames have definite columns. You can really see them clearly if you turn your screen sideways to watch the video (making them horizontal). I wonder if only displaying every Nth frame would clear it up? I would tae a wild guess that n=8 just because of the octal division of the dials on the simulation machine. I also wonder if viewing it through an active shuttered 3D system would reveal anything (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shutter_3D_system) - anyone have a pair of these?

Also wondering about glasses free 3D tech such as this (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4269274/). In short, the screen is divided into columns and set up so your left and right eyes only see every other column. Given the apparent column divisions here, that might reveal something.

So I have a few minutes to describe my thoughts on the video in more detail now that I'm on lunch.

Have you ever used an emulator for NES games on a PC? One where you can add a filter to the graphics? These filters "smooth out" the pixels and kind of round them off, and connecting pixels are kind of blobbed together forming a shape.

This is the effect I see when watching the light and dark areas in the video. Unfortunately, they change incredibly fast, so its hard to make anything out of it. It appeared as though I was seeing text / letters at times, but not more than one at a time, as far as I could tell. I also thought the dark areas looked like a crowd of people moving about, as seen from somewhat above, but not directly from overhead; although it might be fire moving about due to the title. I agree with whoever said it looked like many transparent layers all stacked together.

It also looks like the video was something like 40 pixels high and stretched to fill the 1080 size. If it was that small, it would be very pixelated, and hence the filter effect I stated above - the filter effect may be the result of the stretching process. I know it can happen with images that are blown up depending on the software used. If I resized the video to very small, it seemed easier to see the supposed letters flashing.

I'm no expert in video forensics, but that is what seems like is going on to me.

[Mike]

There's only so many times I can watch that video without triggering seizures but I happened to pause at the right time to see this...
http://i.imgur.com/c9dz8UP.png

Not sure what I'm looking at here...

[Toadflax]

There's only so many times I can watch that video without triggering seizures but I happened to pause at the right time to see this...
http://i.imgur.com/c9dz8UP.png

To see what, you maniac?

[Theodora]

There's only so many times I can watch that video without triggering seizures but I happened to pause at the right time to see this...
http://i.imgur.com/c9dz8UP.png

I don't see anything

[EktO-1]

Anyone tried looking through the transparent sheet that came with the NTAE PC at the burning bright video? The scratched eyes... the transparent sheet... the video that needs to be decoded... anything there? Either held up to the eyes like 3d glasses or directly on the screen? What about on a CRT monitor? Anyone got one of those?

[DRanged691]

To see what, you maniac?

You don't see the face? @Malashaan did when I showed him.

[Skullton]

you can see a face in most frames if you look hard enough

[LiquidEngineer]

This is a thing that can be done!?

It can be done, but I don't know that it will have any effect other than looking/feeling like I'm watching it on a mega movie screen. From my understanding it has to be shot and played in a 3d format to feel like you're really there. I could be wrong, my husband would know. I just play with my cool toy.

[define]

Not sure what I'm looking at here...

Wait! Look at the bottom right 9 pixels... Zoom in!


HOLY FUCK!!!

[Hesitation_Marks]

besides the line of text that's not in the lyrics it might also be noteworthy that the leading [P] and the trailing [Q] are the only inverted characters on that page that aren't [S].

If I remember correctly there is 1 P, 1 Q, and 5 S, but I don't have them in front of me right now.

Can anyone dream up any significance of them being blocked like that?

[dvp]

There's only so many times I can watch that video without triggering seizures but I happened to pause at the right time to see this...
http://i.imgur.com/c9dz8UP.png

Is it a sailboat?

[lysergicengel]

Hey! That's a scene from the episode of the X files or... Psi Factor or some else stupid tv show. There was a kid, he was drawing the static noise from tv and then he placed it on the floor and from above the main protagonists saw the image of... a face (?).

I was thinking the same thing about the X-Files. It's the episode called Conduit where a guy starts writing out 1's and 0's he can see in the static of a TV. After he wrote pages of this he put them all together to make an image of a girl.

[define]

The more i think about it the more i realize that to "decode" the video for burning bright we might need some special software that we MIGHT find during the whole ARG thing... Or maybe i am wrong and there's nothing in it. Just a noise. OR maybe there's something else. Like... it was shot by a military drone or whatever

[mr9inchnail]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already and it's probably nothing but has anybody else seen this http://nottheactualevents.com/

[izo]

I thought I was seeing zoomed in lettering going across as well, but could not make anything out of it.

Computational Neuroscientist here. Not to deflate the enthusiasm for finding meaning in the video, but be careful thinking you are seeing real things. The brain is conditioned to look for patterns and, in the presence of constant or information free (i.e. fully random) inputs, will begin hallucinating them (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_effect).

I've looked frame-by-frame at segments of the video, and as I posted earlier, they don't appear correlated, they look like noise, but generated from something like Perlin noise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perlin_noise). There are indeed what appear to be sharp ridges, which may just be the effect of tweaking parameters in the noise generator, not meaningful signal being masked out.

Oh, I know. In another post I mentioned I was worried about watching the video over and over and falling victim to pareidolia

[Skullton]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already and it's probably nothing but has anybody else seen this http://nottheactualevents.com/

yeah idk the fuck ody seems kind of out of place and theres not really anything else there that i can find

[mexicoler]

starting to get the impression we don't need trent and 42 entertainment to create an ARG since we've basically made a bootleg one ourselves.

i mean, we even got the websites and shit

[arsenic]

Sorry if this has been mentioned already and it's probably nothing but has anybody else seen this http://nottheactualevents.com/

Yep, it has nothing to do with NIN. I already debunked it in the ntae thread a while back

[LiquidEngineer]

starting to get the impression we don't need trent and 42 entertainment to create an ARG since we've basically made a bootleg one ourselves.

i mean, we even got the websites and shit

Shhhhhhhh. Don't ruin our fun.

[define]

starting to get the impression we don't need trent and 42 entertainment to create an ARG since we've basically made a bootleg one ourselves.

i mean, we even got the websites and shit

Haha. You know, i just imagined Trent after this post about "important back cover". Maybe he was like 'check it out, isn't it cool and pretty?!' and then we started to look for clues and decided it's a new ARG and Trent was like "Oh holy shit, what i've done..."

[mexicoler]

Shhhhhhhh. Don't ruin our fun.

maybe it is us who have to be fun for trent now.

the tables have turned, he is now our fan

[LiquidEngineer]

maybe it is us who have to be fun for trent now.

the tables have turned, he is now our fan

We've done our job well then.

[tadbot]

The Burning Bright video also reminds me of these books that I had as a kid:
https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Moving-.../dp/0486232247
https://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Mo...dp/0486253740/
These books contained regular black&white illustrations on paper, but the books also came with a transparent, acetate sheet with a moire pattern on it (very similar to the NTAE physical component). When you put the sheet over one of the illustrations, and moved the sheet back&forth, the illustration looked 'animated' due to the moire effect.
Some more info/videos of this effect in action: https://artplusmarketing.com/practic...t-3faecc04cd07