Metallica

[october_midnight]

Discussion of everything from their old days where they kicked obscene amounts of ass, to these days where Lars drums on empty paint cans and they release gems like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJlU_9Vyvqs


FOR WORSHIP OF SOMEONE WHO ACTIVELY DESPIIIIIIIIISES YOU!!!

[bgalbraith]

I just found out about Lulu not that long ago. It's.... it's awful. Not like St. Anger tiresome but really really bad.

I really enjoyed their S&M album. That was a genre spanning collaboration I could get behind, but this...

[october_midnight]

Oh, and Darren Aronofsky directing that? What were you thinkin', man?

[Totally]

I'll just take everyones word on Lupu & pretend it didn't happen.
Watch them compensate for it next album. They're gonna need to

[Maurish]

"I AM THE TABLE!"
I won't even bother searching for the other songs to see if they're any good. Unless someone links them here via Youtube so I can listen while browsing the forums.

[aggroculture]

All the LULU you need and about five minutes more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRP_dwEUQwI

Lulu has entertained me more than any other release this year...

[DF118]

Spermless like a girl.

[theruiner]

Much better. (http://tinyurl.com/7kpmb9z)

[bobbie solo]

what's amazing is that no one is their vast network of employees/friends etc had the balls to step in and stop this. Someone had to know what damage this would do to their already embarrassing track record over the past 15 years or so. Or, if someone did try & speak up, it's even worse that they ignored them & went ahead with it anyway. Plus, how do THEY not know it sucks as theyre doing it/listening back & try to make it better themselves. Are you that fucking scared of Lou Reed?

[BenAkenobi]

listened to Kill Em All the other day... :-)
listened to Death Magnetic thereafter... :-(

[Maurish]

All the LULU you need and about five minutes more
Good god! And I thought "The View" was bad...

[Space Suicide]

I downloaded Lulu for a laugh the day it came out. I didn't laugh. I felt embarassed.


Waggle my ass like a dark prostitute
Coagulating heart
Pumping blood

---

Blood in the foyer
The bathroom
The tea room
The kitchen, with her knives splayed

I will swallow your sharpest cutter
Like a colored man’s dick

- From the song 'Pumping Blood'

[Frozen Beach]

I think it's a Trout Mask Replica album.

[NotoriousTIMP]

Anyone else going to the fanclub shows this up coming week in SF?


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[opal]

Anyone else going to the fanclub shows this up coming week in SF?

Finally some REAL Metallica talk in this thread. Lulu shouldn't even be discussed in here ...

Didn't realize those shows start tomorrow already! Curious to see what they're pulling out of the hat there.

[bobbie solo]

despite this whole Lulu debacle, those shows are probably going to be really cool.

[heroicraptor]

Unless they play that lulu garbage.

[Mr. Blaileen]

I am the table.

[Space Suicide]

I am the table.

I am the Shit in the Toilet.

[think i'm a fire engine]

I LIKE that Metallica pisses off their fans.

[Halo Infinity]

When did Metallica actually start to decline? Was it really just at Metallica (The Black Album) era? Or was it really during the Load/ReLoad eras? I am aware however that the shit really hit the fan during the Napster controversy, and St. Anger wasn't really received well. I think Death Magnetic seemed to get more praise, but it just feel short in some ways too from what I've read and heard.

Aside from that, it just looks like some of them just seemed to slowly but surely change their stance on file-sharing from the late 2000s right up until now. I also thought that it was kind of funny to see Lars Ulrich call St. Anger a complete abortion here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyM3_u8SDNQ

[Piko]

Black Album is sort where it began, imo. It's not a bad album by any means, but, it certainly got to their heads. Load and Reload were/are garbage aside from a couple songs. And, I don't really mind St. Anger too much. I can see what they were going for, and I respect that. And coming from a einsturzende neubauten fan, I kinda liked the snare.

[theruiner]

That video actually makes me like Lars just a little bit.

[NotoriousTIMP]

Finally some REAL Metallica talk in this thread. Lulu shouldn't even be discussed in here ...

Didn't realize those shows start tomorrow already! Curious to see what they're pulling out of the hat there.

This is what I got in an email from MetClub:


Now the fun stuff: We want you, the Clubbers, to be involved in the show... this is one big party! Some of you will be receiving an invitation to participate in the envelope with your tickets... to give you a hint, you may want to brush up on your Metallica trivia and riffs! You should have already received an e-mail asking you to submit your stories of how Metallica influenced your life by being the catalyst for you to meet your significant other or perhaps name your pet after a member. We're also looking for your YouTube videos to show us your skills playing and/or singing Metallica songs... a few lucky Clubbers will be invited to join the band on stage!


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[onthewall2983]

I actually liked the Load/Reload stuff. Big fan of the S&M album, mostly because of Michael Kamen though. They were doing good in the overall scheme of things (except that part of the fanbase the black album alienated) until Napster, and people were destroying their merch in the streets. So you could say it started to chip away in '91 although the album was a monster, but reached a more public level once Lars went on the crusade he did. But that they're still touring and recording (and pissing their fans off, which I love about them too), just means they've taken their hits but have gotten back up each time.

[Piko]

S&M is amazing. Load and Reload are tainted. I could listen to St. Anger and Death Magnetic a million times over those two albums.

[NotoriousTIMP]

S&M is amazing. Load and Reload are tainted. I could listen to St. Anger and Death Magnetic a million times over those two albums.

Seriously? IMO, St. Anger is the worst album in their catalog. Load was really good and I've got some great memories tied it. Reload however is total crap in my books. To me that is when they began to fall off their game....


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[DVYDRNS]

You guys should all go to Fresno. Everybody still thinks Metallica is the best band ever in that town. :D

[NotoriousTIMP]

Check your ticket envelope for a note from us... each night select Clubbers will be invited to participate in the show. It could be your chance to show your trivia skills or your amazing power to know Metallica songs in a single note. Also, once you get inside, make sure that at some point during the evening, you head up to the "poster room" on the second floor... that's where the Metallica Museum will be and you can check out some very rare Metallica memorabilia pulled directly from the collections of the band members themselves

Looking forward to checking out the poster room. If I can, I'll snap some photos and post'em here the following day :)


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[bobbie solo]

woah...tonight started off their fan club only shows at the Fillmore. Alternately really friggin awesome and then unfortunately cringeworthy...overall this is badass though if real (took it from setlist.fm)



The Call of Ktulu (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=The+Call+of+Ktulu)

No Remorse (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=No+Remorse)

The Shortest Straw (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=The+Shortest+Straw)

Leper Messiah (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Leper+Messiah)

The Day That Never Comes (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=The+Day+That+Never+Comes)(Kirk Doodle before song

Carpe Diem Baby (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Carpe+Diem+Baby)(First time ever played live)

Hate Train (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Hate+Train)(Unreleased DM-era song. First time ever played live)

Please Don't Judas Me (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nazareth-2bd680b6.html?song=Please+Don't+Judas+Me)(Nazareth (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/nazareth-2bd680b6.html) cover)(Acoustic)

Wherever I May Roam (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Wherever+I+May+Roam)(With a fan)

Sad But True (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Sad+But+True)(With John Marshall)

(Anesthesia)-Pulling Teeth (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=(Anesthesia)-Pulling+Teeth)

No Leaf Clover (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=No+Leaf+Clover)(with Apocalyptica (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/apocalyptica-6bd63aa2.html))

One (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=One)(James sang, with Apocalyptica accompanying. Lars, Kirk and Rob rejoined during the "darkness.." sec)

Harvester of Sorrow (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Harvester+of+Sorrow)(With Jason Newsted)

Damage Inc. (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Damage+Inc.)(With Jason Newsted)

Motorcycle Man (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/saxon-73d69eb9.html?song=Motorcycle+Man)(Saxon (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/saxon-73d69eb9.html) cover)(With Biff Byford)

The Prince (Diamond Head cover) (With Sean Harris and Brian Tatler)

It's Electric (Diamond Head cover) (First time played live)

Helpless (Diamond Head cover) (With Sean Harris and Brian Tatler)

Am I Evil? (Diamond Head cover) (With Sean Harris and Brian Tatler)

[opal]

and then unfortunately cringeworthy

Which parts were cringeworthy?

Harvester and Damage Inc. with Jason? GOTTA SEE THIS!!

Meh, metbb.com is down.

[onthewall2983]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-reunite-with-bassist-jason-newsted-at-30th-anniversary-kickoff-20111205

[Somewhat Damaged]

Which parts were cringeworthy?

Yeah, this sounds fucking incredible.

[burn.]

No Leaf Clover w/ Apocalyptica?
Damage, Inc. w/ Jason?

Jizzed-in-my-pants

[Maurish]

That fan club setlist is quite unique. It seems Lars has finally relearned how to play "The Shortest Straw". ;)

[theruiner]

Wait...Lars can play something?

[heroicraptor]

Wow, that must've been an amazing show.

[bobbie solo]

Which parts were cringeworthy?

believe me, i think this show was badass overall. really really cool thing to do for the fans, and so much cooll shit throughout. i just meant that Please Don't Judas Me, Sad But True, the lyrical side to Hate Train (and Lars' awul drumming) and paying FOUR Diamond Head covers at a Metallica show was kinda lame. Would you have wanted Peter Murphy to do 4 of his own songs in a row at the '09 NIN shows?

[Somewhat Damaged]

December 7th:
To Live is to Die (World Premiere; preceded by Helpless jam)
Enter Sandman
Holier Than Thou
Disposable Heroes
Bleeding Me
Wasting My Hate (First performance since October 15, 2004)
My Apocalypse
Just a Bullet Away (Unreleased song. World Premiere)
Breadfan (Budgie cover) (Played with Metclub member Andrew Dowis)
The Memory Remains (with Marianne Faithfull)
Killing Time (Sweet Savage cover) (With Ray Haller of Sweet Savage)
Turn the Page (Bob Seger cover) (with Kid Rock)
The Four Horsemen (with John Bush) (First performance incl. first solo since 1985)
Iced Honey (Lou Reed & Metallica cover) (with Lou Reed)
The View (Lou Reed & Metallica cover) (with Lou Reed)
White Light/White Heat (The Velvet Underground cover) (with Lou Reed)
Creeping Death (with Jason Newsted)
Battery (with Jason Newsted)
Mercyful Fate (Mercyful Fate cover) (with Mercyful Fate)
Seek & Destroy (With Ray Haller, Scott Ian, Jason Newstead, The Soul Rebels, John Bush, Joey Vera, Gonzo Sandoval)


Ups and downs here, but To Live Is To Die(!!!), Disposable Heroes, Breadfan, Mercyful Fate, and Creeping Death with Jason sounds pretty cool.

Third show is tonight. I'm hoping for Dead Kennedy Rolls (Unreleased St. Anger song) Fixxxer, The Small Hours, Astronomy, and it seems kiiiiind of obvious that they'll do some Motorhead with Motorhead. Or some Misfits with Danzig?

[NotoriousTIMP]

I'm in line! :) pretty excited now that it's closer to show time


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[NotoriousTIMP]

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefdf50a-d6cc-a151.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefdf50a-d704-2e82.jpg

More photos to come later on!


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[NotoriousTIMP]

Jerry Cantrell is the guest tonight! :D

Just finished doing "For Whom The Bell Tolls" & currently doing "Nothing Else Matters"

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[bobbie solo]

so far tonight...
Suicide & Redemption (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Suicide+%26+Redemption)
Master of Puppets (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Master+of+Puppets)
...And Justice for All (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=...And+Justice+for+All)
Of Wolf and Man (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Of+Wolf+and+Man)
Fade to Black (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Fade+to+Black)
The Thing That Should Not Be (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=The+Thing+That+Should+Not+Be)
I Disappear (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=I+Disappear)
The Outlaw Torn (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=The+Outlaw+Torn)
Hell and Back (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Hell+and+Back) (Unreleased song. World Premiere)
Blitzkrieg (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/blitzkrieg-7bd682a4.html?song=Blitzkrieg) (Blitzkrieg (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/blitzkrieg-7bd682a4.html) cover) (With MetClubber Joseph Guariglia)
For Whom the Bell Tolls (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=For+Whom+the+Bell+Tolls) (with Jerry Cantrell (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jerry-cantrell-43d68b93.html))
Nothing Else Matters (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Nothing+Else+Matters) (with Jerry Cantrell (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jerry-cantrell-43d68b93.html))
So What (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/anti-nowhere-league-73d6da99.html?song=So+What) (Anti-Nowhere League (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/anti-nowhere-league-73d6da99.html) cover) (With Animal of Anti-Nowhere League)
Tuesday's Gone (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/lynyrd-skynyrd-1bd6ad50.html?song=Tuesday's+Gone) (Lynyrd Skynyrd (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/lynyrd-skynyrd-1bd6ad50.html) cover) (With Gary Rossington, Jerry Cantrell, Pepper Keenan & more)
Fuel (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Fuel) (with Jason Newsted (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jason-newsted-3bd6f464.html))
Fight Fire With Fire (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?song=Fight+Fire+With+Fire) (with Jason Newsted (http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jason-newsted-3bd6f464.html))
Die Die My Darling (with Danzig!!)
Last Caress (with Danzig)
Green Hell (with Danzig)
Rapid Fire ;lk.,mlmsdlmzdcml,c;ml,!!!!!scmlsmsdasalkm (with Rob fucking Halford)
Seek & Destroy (with everyone)

[NotoriousTIMP]

Glenn Danzig!!! Did "die die die" and currently doing "last caress"

*edit*

AND NOW ROB HALFORD!!!!

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[bobbie solo]

seriously fuck everybody who got to go to one of these.

[Maximilian]

seriously fuck everybody who got to go to one of these.

Yeh, seriously. I'm mad now.

[Somewhat Damaged]

Or some Misfits with Danzig?


...just sayin'.

But wow, these shows seemed awesome.

Also, fuck yeah, Outlaw Torn.

[burn.]

Tonight they'll play "Hit The Lights", "Metal Militia", "Phantom Lord", "Jump In the Fire", and "Seek And Destroy" with this guy:
http://www.bob937.com/Pics/Music News/Dave Mustaine 2.jpg

Who the fuck is he?

No really, they're going for it:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150398805247330&set=a.97672432329.99881.7709052329&type=1&theater

[onthewall2983]

Someone tell me these shows will find their way onto some kind of release, be it through their website or something more mainstream.

[burn.]

1.
Orion (http://www.metallica.com/songs/orion.asp)


2.
Through the Never (http://www.metallica.com/songs/through-the-never.asp)


3.
Ride the Lightning (http://www.metallica.com/songs/ride-the-lightning.asp)


4.
The God That Failed (http://www.metallica.com/songs/the-god-that-failed.asp)


5.
Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/welcome-home-sanitarium.asp)


6.
Rebel of Babylon (http://www.metallica.com/songs/rebel-of-babylon.asp)


7.
Blackened (w/ MetClubbers Dennis & Annette Diaz) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/blackened.asp)


8.
Dirty Window (w/ Bob Rock) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/dirty-window.asp)


9.
Frantic (w/ Bob Rock) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/frantic.asp)


10.
Sabbra Cadabra (w/ Geezer Butler) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/sabbra-cadabra.asp)


11.
Iron Man (w/ Ozzy Osbourne & Geezer Butler) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/iron-man.asp)


12.
Paranoid (w/ Ozzy Osbourne & Geezer Butler) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/paranoid.asp)


13.
King Nothing (w/ Jason Newsted) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/king-nothing.asp)


14.
Whiplash (w/ Jason Newsted) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/whiplash.asp)


15.
Motorbreath (w/ Hugh Tanner) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/motorbreath.asp)


16.
Phantom Lord (w/ Dave Mustaine) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/phantom-lord.asp)


17.
Jump in the Fire (w/ Dave Mustaine) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/jump-in-the-fire.asp)


18.
Metal Militia (w/ Dave Mustaine) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/metal-militia.asp)


19.
Hit the Lights (w/ Lloyd Grant, Dave Mustaine, & Ron McGovney) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/hit-the-lights.asp)


20.
Seek & Destroy (w/ Jason Newsted, Dave Mustaine, Lloyd Grant, Ron McGovney, Hugh Tanner, Mark Osegueda, and the Soul Rebels) (http://www.metallica.com/songs/seek-and-destroy.asp)




This is unfair.

F...u...c...k...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NDKjY9OdxuU

[NotoriousTIMP]

Someone tell me these shows will find their way onto some kind of release, be it through their website or something more mainstream.

Each show was recorded and then uploaded the following day for download. $9.99 for mp3s and $12.99 for FLAC


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[NotoriousTIMP]

WOW.....the totally topped Friday night's show last night:

The band's setlist was as follows:

01. Orion
02. Through the Never
03. Ride the Lightning
04. The God That Failed
05. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
06. Rebel Of Babylon (previously unreleased song from "Death Magnetic" sessions)
07. Blackened (with fan-club members Dennis, Annette Diaz)
08. Dirty Window (with Bob Rock)
09. Frantic (with Bob Rock)
10. Sabbra Cadabra (BLACK SABBATH cover) (with Geezer Butler)
11. Iron Man (BLACK SABBATH cover) (with Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler)
12. Paranoid (BLACK SABBATH cover) (with Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler)
13. King Nothing (w/ Jason Newsted)
14. Whiplash (w/ Jason Newsted)
15. Motorbreath (w/ Hugh Tanner)
16. Phantom Lord (w/ Dave Mustaine)
17. Jump In The Fire (w/ Dave Mustaine)
18. Metal Militia (w/ Dave Mustaine)
19. Hit The Lights (w/ Lloyd Grant, Dave Mustaine, Ron McGovney)
20. Seek & Destroy (w/ Jason Newsted, Dave Mustaine, Lloyd Grant, Ron McGovney, Hugh Tanner, Mark Osegueda, and THE SOUL REBELS)


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[Piko]

Damn, they're really going all out! Never would've expected them to share a stage with Mustaine ever again. Insanity!

[erre]

The only song missing is Dyers Eve, imagine that after To Live Is to Die. Did they recorded an official video of these shows?

[NotoriousTIMP]

They recorded each night with audio and I do believe there is video footage


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[NotoriousTIMP]

photos as promised!!

The Poster Room:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/079-1.jpg

Original Artwork
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/057-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/059-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/061-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/065-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/067-2.jpg

Guitar collection

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/063-1.jpg

cloth banner ad

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/069-1.jpg

Original guitar that James was holding when the Pyro accident happened. You can see the burnt neck piece

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/071-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/073-4.jpg

Ill upload videos later on.....

[NotoriousTIMP]

http://youtu.be/pZ_KIPJr6dA

[cashpiles (closed)]

I want to add something to this thread. Metallica have rocked the universe's foundations (Master of Puppets, ...and Justice For All). Now almost everybody completely hates the Lulu project. I for one freakin' love the hell out of it. If you listen to Lulu enough you will understand the genius of this album. Never have I heard such strange lyrics and emoting. Lou Reed is insane. He definitely gives you plenty to think about. Once you play the album through a few times, the story will start coming to life. Metallica create a perfectly flawed and awesome score for this twisted play. Seriously. Lulu rules.

[Piko]

Musically, it's decent. Lou Reed's the one who ruined it. Since the 70s, he's figured that the incoherent rambling of his bad poetic lyrics were passable. But it's mostly his delivery that bothers me the most. He refuses to sing, and insists on "being wild", and it just doesn't work for me. Velvet Underground, a couple solo albums and I'm set. But musically, it's possibly some of the heaviest stuff I've heard from Metallica in ages.

[burn.]

Musically, it's decent. Lou Reed's the one who ruined it. Since the 70s, he's figured that the incoherent rambling of his bad poetic lyrics were passable. But it's mostly his delivery that bothers me the most. He refuses to sing, and insists on "being wild", and it just doesn't work for me. Velvet Underground, a couple solo albums and I'm set. But musically, it's possibly some of the heaviest stuff I've heard from Metallica in ages.

I agree.
I enjoy a couple of songs, I admit it, but I think that album was a complete waste of good riffs.

[Piko]

Ditch a few of the songs, ditch Reed's vocals, refine some of the core elements - you could possibly have a pretty cool Metallica album. But instead we got an album that lacked chemistry. It was like they tried to cater to Reed, but couldn't, and instead of canning the concept, they went on with it. It's a mess.

[cashpiles (closed)]

I have felt the same way about the "disconnect" between Reed's vocal delivery and the music. However, don't think about it as music. Think about it as a stage play. Lou Reed is an actor and Metallica's music is the soundtrack. How can you not love Lou Reed's vocals? He's insane.

[Piko]

Haven't liked his vocals since The Bells, at least. He WAS a good vocalist, then all of a sudden, he wasn't.

[think i'm a fire engine]

There's some seriously dark shit going on in these lyrics. This guy is a crazy motherfucker that's for sure. I think a lot of people are stuck on how the vocals and the music don't fit together the way they like vocals and music to fit together but aren't focusing on the fact that combining those two seemingly disconnected elements was the entire reason for making the album. Musically, it's not Metallica's best effort. It's the whole thing together that makes it what it is.

[NotoriousTIMP]

So wait, Lulu is new a collection of new tunes from Metallica with Reed singing over them? I thought it was a collection of cover songs....


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[Maximilian]

So wait, Lulu is new a collection of new tunes from Metallica with Reed singing over them? I thought it was a collection of cover songs....


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Well, listen to the original version of Junior Dad and compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhaUDl4jbS0

[R37R0]

that new ep "beyond magnetic" is a good return to form

[seasonsinthesky]

^ you know, people said that about St. Anger...

[NotoriousTIMP]

^ you know, people said that about St. Anger...

Who the hell said this? That album was complete crap


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[theruiner]

^ you know, people said that about St. Anger...

Who the hell said this?Deaf people.

[seasonsinthesky]

i recall reviews leading up to its release that were saying it. one even called the quick double kicks in the title track "blastbeats." i couldn't make this shit up, dude.

in regards to Beyond Magnetic, it's somewhat backwards to say an EP of outtakes that didn't even make an album are somehow a return to form — especially considering the material. i don't sit, twiddling my thumbs, through crap like "Hate Train" and go, "man! this is as solid as anything on Justice!" the outtakes are just as boring, monotonous, and uneventful as Death Magnetic proper; i find myself wondering where 'long, progressive songs' from ye days of olde became 'the song needs to hit 7 minutes, even though it should have ended 5 riffs ago.' every song.

[mfte]

rebel of babylon is pretty solid

[everythingandnothing]

I actually just deleted Lulu from my library. Mind bogglingly bad.


However, don't think about it as music. Think about it as a stage play. Lou Reed is an actor and Metallica's music is the soundtrack.

That's exactly how I thought of it as I heard it, like I get what they're going for but even then I still could find no joy in listening to it. I'd rather watch an actual stage play with Lou Reed and Metallica.

[cashpiles (closed)]

I actually just deleted Lulu from my library. Mind bogglingly bad.



That's exactly how I thought of it as I heard it, like I get what they're going for but even then I still could find no joy in listening to it. I'd rather watch an actual stage play with Lou Reed and Metallica.

That would be freakin' awesome. There would be some simple scenery and stage dressing. And there would be curtains and a scene for each song.

[october_midnight]

http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/291579_S/metallica-goes-shoppinghardcore.jpg

[Conan The Barbarian]

pfffft.

I guess money just changes people.

[opal]

And here's what he had to say about it ;)


(Go to 3:02)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75MXabXZy_g&t=3m2s

[Kid Charlemagne]

So Metallica announced a festival for June in Atlantic City, and the lineup is pretty fucking amazing. In addition to them playing Black Album on one night and motherfuckin' Ride the Lightning on the other, they have handpicked some awesome and head scratching groups:
Initial lineup for the Orion Music + More Festival:
•Arctic Monkeys
•Avenged Sevenfold
•Modest Mouse
•The Gaslight Anthem
•Cage The Elephant
•Fucked Up
•Best Coast
•Hot Snakes
•Titus Andronicus
•Gary Clark Jr.
•Lucero
•Roky Erickson
•The Black Angels
•The Sword
•A Place to Bury Strangers
•Liturgy

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-announce-orion-music-festival-20120207#ixzz1ljhu0iLi


With the exception of Avenged Sevenfold and A Place to Bury Strangers, I would pay top dollar to see all those acts.

[bobbie solo]

and so Metallica continues the trend of doing awesome things, followed immediately by horrible ones.

Death Magnetic (bad)
Solid long term touring behind it, with awesome openers, long/varied setlists, cool stage show and hitting every corner of the world (good)

Big Four shows (good)
Lulu (bad)

30th Anniversary shows (good)
this bullshit festival with a silly lineup and most likely an audience that will not give a fuck about any of them except A7X (bad)

[henryeatscereal]

8 concerts at Mexico City with the new Stage (good)

[opal]

These guys are on fire!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeHQBtQwNNg&feature=player_embedded

[Sutekh]

Love Metallica... even black album, load, death magnetic (some songs on DM are better than a couple of songs on AJFA imo). St Anger was crap - songs are too long, the sound is jarring at first but what really lets it down is the way they obviously keep deciding to pad every song out a bit further by repeating earlier verses etc... almost every song on that album should have come in at 3 minutes or less. I found myself like almost getting out of my chair because I thought the song would end and then suddenly they carry on (for some reason). As weird as the guitars and drums sound I think it could have worked as a weird EP of blunter, shorter songs but they tried to drag it out

No solos was a bad move. But! that whole st anger comeback tour was fucking amazing... watching SOAD do a set of first album/toxicity songs as the sun set over reading festival, then metallica come on, I think the time off (relatively) did them some good, james' voice was great etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6PS5wXL64

Lulu is bizarre and to be honest it makes me laugh. It is the plan 9 from outer space of rock music. But that said I honestly don't doubt that it starts to get under your skin after a few listens

[Kodiak33]

They are absolutely incredible live. I don't even like them that much otherwise.

[bobbie solo]

no theyre not, imo. I love Metallica overall, but theyre old men now. James' voice has been shot since the 90's. Kirk can play pretty sloppy at times, part. his solos. And Lars...well, the man clearly has no interest in keeping up with his craft and has become a piss poor drummer. It's embarrassing watching him flail his way through the faster thrash songs. Rob is a great bassist, but his stage presence is ridiculous/Fieldy-like. James is solid on guitar.

They def. give great energy back to the crowd, but they are a big ol' mess, and have been for at least 6 to 8 years, probably more. If you want a treat, find the 2004 Donington bootleg where Lars couldnt play, and Joey Jordison/Dave Lombardo filled in for the night on drums. It was like a whole new band.

don't even get me started at James' stage banter. ARE YOU ALIIIIIIVVVEE??? DOES IT FEEL GOOD TO BE ALIIIIIIIIIVE? ugh, STOP IT!

[theruiner]

Ugh. I've always hated James' banter. "Hey, baby! It's Metallica, baby!" SHUT UP.

[Sutekh]

haha... "Metallica's hear to make you feel gooooooood" etc. aw bless

I met Hetfield once (I was embarassingly mandied up, god knows what he must have thought), he comes across like a shy nerd and has a hand like a leathery foot. Also he was shorter than me - metal win

[NotoriousTIMP]

I was just at a local record shop here in Seattle and had no idea this was released. It covers the xXx shows in detail and contains a cool little 10" vinyl with two tracks on it. Not a bad deal for only $20

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/7759f285.jpg

[thefragile_jake]

don't even get me started at james' stage banter. Are you aliiiiiivvvee??? Does it feel good to be aliiiiiiiiive? Ugh, stop it!

metallica's family!!

[Kid Charlemagne]

Anybody see the lineup for this years Orion Festival? Swear to God, these guys have the best taste in music. Fidlar, Deftones, Foals, Joy Formidable, Fu Manchu, Japandroids, Death Grips, Tomahawk, Dillinger Escape Plan. If I weren't planning on Bonnaroo, I'd totally go to it.

[blackholesun]

Even last years lineup was pretty good. Not sure why the festival is in Michigan rather than California though.

[onthewall2983]

I'm tentatively going to it, with my brother and a few of his friends.

[onthewall2983]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUWhfl3G9As

[onthewall2983]

Here's the trailer (http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/metallica-through-the-never-movie-trailer-unveiled). Get a chance to see Lars look 5 feet tall.

[DVYDRNS]

In don't get it... Is it a concert or a movie? Or a documentary?

[Maul]

The way that interview is filmed is so pretentious!

[mfte]

Lars loooks so old.......Played with this band last month. They had a great shirt on their merch table with the following design.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m96nwb6jc01rt86ibo1_500.jpg

[Vertigo]

Ye gods, that is cold.

[onthewall2983]

The "not letting go of the Napster thing" is getting really pathetic.

[thefragile_jake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_jIbi327U

I don't remember how, when or why I saw this awhile ago...but James incredibly cheesy back and forth with the crowd during "Enter Sandman" is hilarious.

Every now and then I'll start singing "LIKE A FAM-E-LEE! LIKE A FAM-E-LEE! METALLICA'S FAMILY!" to myself.

I don't even like Metallica so this is even funnier.

[Space Suicide]

Lars Ulrich always rubbed me the wrong way. He has a superior attitude about himself and everything, meh. Off-putting considering his drumming is nothing remarkable. Yes, I know that interview was posted 3 months ago.

[Bill Ulsh]

I actually like Death Magnetic
Load Reload and St Anger - NO
Kill Em all - Black album - most definately

[LaneSax]

I love this band, and the love just grows with time.

There was a time when I wasn't totally impressed with The Black Album and Justice but now I am really starting to appreciate the songs especially after seeing them live. Shortest Straw is a monster of a track when performed live.

I think Load is a good album, ReLoad on the other hand has too many fillers.
St. Anger could have been better, with better production and perhaps making the songs shorter. The single version of Some Kind of Monster was an improvement for sure by making it shorter and having a better mix.

I look forward to the new album though not expecting anything ground breaking, expecting it to just be a progression from stuff we heard off Death Magnetic and Beyond Magnetic.

I'd rank their albums as such

Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets
Kill 'em All
...and Justice for All
Death Magnetic
Load
MetallicA
St. Anger
ReLoad

[simonn]

I really like Death Magnetic too. Think apart from Puppets and TBA, probably my favourite of theirs. Load and Relaod would have been a great single album in my opinion. Been a fan since the very start, bought Kill 'em All the week it came out, and remember being in a record shop in London (Shades, gone now sadly...) a month before RTL came out, and hearing it playing in the shop. Freaked out!

[cahernandez]

Lars loooks so old.......Played with this band last month. They had a great shirt on their merch table with the following design.



I'm sorry, that's an extremely stupid shirt. Say what you will about Lars' drumming skills or his arrogance, but to get behind a shirt like that...It makes me lose faith in humanity.

[Halo Infinity]

I've wondered about that too. Who knows how Cliff Burton would've ended up if he was still alive? Whoever made that shirt would probably say the same thing about Cliff Burton if he was still alive and found something to dislike/hate him over.

[Halo Infinity]

The "not letting go of the Napster thing" is getting really pathetic.
I have to admit that I was sort of guilty of that back in the early to mid 2000s. (I was still in my early to late teens at the time. Please forgive me.) :p On the real though, I can't deny how much I actually like their work.

[LaneSax]

I stood by Lars and MetallicA throughout the whole Napster thing and Lars is still my fave member of the band.

But I cannot deny that I enjoyed these videos so much back in the day


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rBhUK0_dYw

[Halo Infinity]

Those videos always remind me of this one too. :p


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQc0x5E9jOc

[PUNCHLINE]

Lars is an annoying little man, one of the few people on this planet I would hate to be stuck in a lift with, but his dedication and hard work for his band cant be faulted. No Lars, no Metallica, even today.

[Vertigo]

I imagine Lars has a special Lars-only diamond-encrusted elevator for every building he ever visits, so being stuck with him probably isn't something to worry about.

[Space Suicide]

Those videos always remind me of this one too. :p


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQc0x5E9jOc

What a douchebag advert video.

[onthewall2983]

Just watched it. Pretty good use of 3D, especially the concert stuff. I can imagine that if this does good enough business more films like this will come along.

[LaneSax]

finally some new MetallicA!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7rh_eL9Jlc

[Space Suicide]

Sounds like shit and not because of the quality. Lars drumming is shitastic as always. This band died after Newsted left. No disrespect to Trujillo, since he is talented.

I'm not a hater but then again, I never really liked this band anyways.

[NotoriousTIMP]

Man, his drumming does sound shitty in that video....

[think i'm a fire engine]

I long for the day Lars stops trying to be a drummer and tells the band to continue with Dave Lombardo.

[thevoid99]

I long for the day Lars stops trying to be a drummer and tells the band to continue with Dave Lombardo.

That would be fucking awesome and a major slap in the face to Slayer.

[LaneSax]

Demo of Lords of Summer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOtev3rEKI

[LaneSax]

another excellent medley of covers!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwB9GktmaHA

[LaneSax]

this is up on iTunes now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7SIYzXM6zA

[Space Suicide]

Sounds compressed and as shitty as Death Magnetic tracks guitar wise.

The song is also repetative and goes on for about 4-5 minutes longer than it should.

[onthewall2983]

Well, they're upfront with how it's a rough mix.

[armogi]

At least we know what to expect with the upcoming album...

[LaneSax]

Hmm yeah just like stuff from their previous albums, the song could be shorter. Sounds like it's long just for the sake of it.

I am expecting Death Magnetic Part 2 for the next album, that's fine by me really.

[Jinsai]

winter's turn... lords of summer have returrrrrrrrrned...

I'm usually whatever when it comes to lyrics, and so this is something I rarely say, but really, what the fuck is this song "about?" I'm not going to judge a rough mix (why the hell is Metallica uploading rough mixes?!), but that's the least of my issues with this.


I am expecting Death Magnetic Part 2 for the next album, that's fine by me really.

This "rough mix" already sounds better than that album.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoPYP-58SHU

[armogi]

lol, that was actually good, that and the glasto thing may be among the most interesting thing they've done lately.

[Krazy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoPYP-58SHU

Was just watching ESPN and came here to post that after seeing it for the first time. :D

Good stuff.

[LaneSax]

and the bloopers...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2z_E9jRLvw

[LaneSax]

this is interesting...

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallicas-no-life-til-leather-cassette-to-be-re-released-on-record-store-day/

[armogi]

yes indeed, it will be nice to have this in good/clean quality to replace the various old dubious bootlegs. Now I pray they don't butcher it as they did with DM otherwise I'll stick to the bootleg version :)

[LaneSax]

I am definitely looking forward to the expanded and collector's set. Then again, I just want a new album!

[onthewall2983]

Been on a major kick lately, since getting Some Kind of Monster on Blu-ray. Haven't gotten around to St. Anger yet, but I've always had mixed feelings. Hate that fucking snare, but I can't deny that the songs themselves were pretty awesome in their own way. Lyrically it hits deeper emotional resonance than probably anything they did before that.

[LaneSax]

St Anger's a fun album... I regularly have cravings for Frantic and The Unnamed Feeling

[armogi]

It's a bit repetitive and therefore too long but other than that it's not so bad, it's nu-metallica :)

[LaneSax]

It's a bit repetitive and therefore too long but other than that it's not so bad, it's nu-metallica :)
yeh most if not all the tracks were unnecessarily long.

[SIR.LONDONCLEANLILY]

Lyrically it hits deeper emotional resonance than probably anything they did before that. I know man, who could forget the lyrical genius that is "Invisible Kid"? Not since Dr. Suess has such lame combination of rhymes existed. I think I just insulted Dr. Suess! But seriously, I am a Metallica fan! I like EVERYTHING besides St. Anger. That album makes the Lou Reed album seem like freaking The Wall! I just laugh every time I listen to St. Anger and think, "Why didn't someone stop them?". The vocal wailing in the middle of this song sound like a retarded dog that is dying. Anyways, laugh away!

"Invisible Kid"

Invisible kid
Never see what he did
Got stuck where he hid
Fallen through the grid

Invisible kid
Got a place of his own
Where he’ll never be known
Inward he’s grown

Invisible kid
Locked away in his brain
From the shame and the pain
World down the drain

Invisible kid
Suspicious of your touch
Don’t want no crutch
But it’s all too much

I hide inside
I hurt inside
I hide inside, but I’ll show you...

I’m OK, just go away
Into the distance let me fade
I’m OK, just go away
I’m OK, but please don’t stray too far

Open up your heart
I’m beating right here
Open your mind
I’m being right here, right now
Open your heart
I’m beating right here
Open your mind
I’m being right here, right now

Ooh, what a good boy you are
Out of the way and you’re kept to yourself
Ooh, can’t you see that he’s not here
He doesn’t want the attention you give
Ooh, unplugging from it all
Invisible kid floats alone in his room
Ooh, what a quiet boy you are
He looks so calm floating ‘round and ‘round in himself

[henryeatscereal]

^Agreed, "invisible Kid" is one of the worst Metallica songs ever...

[Sutekh]

no mention of lars' thong?!

[thevoid99]

I do not want to see Lars in a thong. Those lyrics of "Invisible Kid" is fucking awful.

[Space Suicide]

St. Anger, the song, is good. One of the very few I actually like by the band at large as I think they're overhyped, overblown and one of the safest and most mediocre metal bands out there.

[onthewall2983]

http://hetfield-the-cat.tumblr.com (http://hetfield-the-cat.tumblr.com/)

[Shadaloo]

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-limited-edition-beer-to-be-made-available-in-quebec/
(http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-limited-edition-beer-to-be-made-available-in-quebec/)
In true Canadian fashion, I'm morally and ethically obliged to look down my nose at American beer, so something something insert joke here about shitty overrated brands deserving each other something something.

I've actually been going back to the catalogue a bit lately. There is one goddamned fine album between Load and ReLoad.

[armogi]

I've actually been going back to the catalogue a bit lately. There is one goddamned fine album between Load and ReLoad.

100% agreed!

[Failure]

100% agreed!

If you take the first half of Load and then tack on "Wasting My Hate", "Fuel", "The Memory Remains", and "Unforgiven II", you've got an amazing record. For me, "Bleeding Me" is their best song from the 90's. But aside from the singles, Re-Load is pretty terrible.

[henryeatscereal]

I agree, taking the best of "Load" and some tracks from "Reload", you can get an awesome album!
I will just defend "Low Man's Lyric" (from Reload), i think it's a great song!

[Vertigo]

I'd add Devil's Dance (one of my favourite Metallica songs) and Where The Wild Things Are, but yeah, there's some great rock material between those albums.

[seasonsinthesky]

No love for "Fixxxer?" Clearly the winner on Re-Load I would say.

[GulDukat]

Always liked both albums.

[Maximilian]

I always liked them, too. It's weird you guys brought them up because I broke them out just this last week. I can do without Prince Charming, Better Than You, Bad Seed and a couple others, but overall it's good stuff.

St. Anger though, I still want my money back for that and I was a first day buyer.

[henryeatscereal]

One song i dislike from "Re Load" is "Fuel", never liked it, never will... Agreed that St. Anger is shit, i was also a first day buyer (DVD version and all...) :/

[Shadaloo]

Here's how I think I'd do it. Maybe not this exact order, but these are definitely the songs I'd keep on; roughly 75/25 in Load's favor. They dodged a bullet when they decided to not release a double album.

1. Ain't My Bitch
2. 2 X 4
3. The Memory Remains
4. The House Jack Built
5. King Nothing
6. Hero of the Day
7. Bleeding Me
8. Where the Wild Things Are
9. The Unforgiven II
10. Ronnie
11. Mama Said
12. Until It Sleeps
13. Low Man's Lyric
14. The Outlaw Torn

[GulDukat]

I always liked them, too. It's weird you guys brought them up because I broke them out just this last week. I can do without Prince Charming, Better Than You, Bad Seed and a couple others, but overall it's good stuff.

St. Anger though, I still want my money back for that and I was a first day buyer.
I try to see merits in albums that most would judge as poor, i.e., Van Halen 3. That said, I hate St. Anger, and that's coming from someone who liked LuLu.

[Krazy]

One song i dislike from "Re Load" is "Fuel", never liked it, never will... Agreed that St. Anger is shit, i was also a first day buyer (DVD version and all...) :/


http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii223/GoatKrazy/Mobile%20Uploads/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000110.jpg (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/GoatKrazy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000110.jpg.html)


Even though the black album isn't complete shiite, Metallica still pretty much died to me after Justice. It's not so much that they went to a thrash band (honestly, how many more heavy albums could they have made with themes of war, drugs, etc.) to a hard rock band so much that the music just flat out blows. And James Hetfield attempted to do more singing along with the HEY YEAHHAHHH! crap. I'm still befuddled at how much more popular they get even though so many of their fans bitch about them... yet still follow them.

Bizarre.

[Jon]

14. The Outlaw Torn (Unencumbered By Manufacturing Restrictions Version)

fixxxed, sir.

[Space Suicide]

The Memory Remains is the best thing this band ever achieved musically post Black Album both audio and video wise. I don't even like this band and find them grossly boring and overrated (also the worst of the "Big 4" thrash bands of the 80's/90's) but this song is excellent and has aged well. The music video is phenomenal as well.

Also for the record, I never liked anything this band has done either for the most part. Not a fan of even the 80's albums. I just don't care for them. So me saying this is a big compliment. Just my two cents anyways.

[seasonsinthesky]

The Memory Remains is the best thing this band ever achieved musically post Black Album both audio and video wise. I don't even like this band and find them grossly boring and overrated (also the worst of the "Big 4" thrash bands of the 80's/90's) but this song is excellent and has aged well. The music video is phenomenal as well.

Also for the record, I never liked anything this band has done either for the most part. Not a fan of even the 80's albums. I just don't care for them. So me saying this is a big compliment. Just my two cents anyways.

It's bizarre you'd say it about TMR of all songs. Video is indeed pretty classic '90s though.

I like it a lot on S&M because the production is way better.

[Conan The Barbarian]

Fun fact about that video, they all wore shades because they all had their eyes closed so they wouldn't get nauseous on that rig.

[onthewall2983]

First two albums getting super duper deluxe editions (https://metallica.com/kill-ride-deluxe).

[Jon]

First two albums getting super duper deluxe editions (https://metallica.com/kill-ride-deluxe).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNNQkOpMTBY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFbupH-aDz8

[GulDukat]

Kind of annoying that they are not just releasing standard remastered reissues of both albums, in the $15.00 range.

[Maximilian]

Kind of annoying that they are not just releasing standard remastered reissues of both albums, in the $15.00 range.

They're both on Amazon for pre-order in the $10 range.

[allegate]

I try to see merits in albums that most would judge as poor, i.e., Van Halen 3. That said, I hate St. Anger, and that's coming from someone who liked LuLu.
You...what?

Would love to see more of their stuff on hdtracks but it doesn't seem likely.

[GulDukat]

They're both on Amazon for pre-order in the $10 range.
Must have missed that, thanks.

[GulDukat]

You...what?

Would love to see more of their stuff on hdtracks but it doesn't seem likely.
Yeah, always dug it. But I'm honestly more of a Lou Reed fan and always dug his more off-beat stuff.

[GulDukat]

Is there a single disc edition for KEA? Can't seem to find it on amazon.

RE: Load and ReLoad. Some fans may have complained, but still, Metallica were arguably the biggest rock band in the late 90's.

[Jon]

Is there a single disc edition for KEA? Can't seem to find it on amazon.

RE: Load and ReLoad. Some fans may have complained, but still, Metallica were arguably the biggest rock band in the late 90's.

It might end up taking over the original Amazon listing (http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Em-All-Metallica/dp/B00EBDXYVO/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1460478890&sr=1-1&keywords=metallica+kill+%27em+all). The vinyl edition on that page is for "Pre-Order" and the CD is "Temporarily Out Of Stock". Metallica.com confirms that there are 3 editions for these remasters (CD/Vinyl/Box Set).

[GulDukat]

Has anyone heard the KEA or RTL remasters? Thoughts?

[Jon]

Has anyone heard the KEA or RTL remasters? Thoughts?

These few lines from the Dynamic Range Database are accurate:


I have the original CD(s) from 1987/88 and also the 1995 Remaster(s). This is about the same loudness as the 1995 Remaster but it definitely has more punch and dynamics. It's not a wall of sound like the 1995 Remaster.

It's the standard 6-11 DR that we've come to expect nowadays from releases; I personally prefer these over the 1994/95 George Marino remasters. The digitizing of the cassettes for the bonus material turned out rather well, the deck being a Nakamichi MR-2. The main thing here, though, is the availability of the two albums digitally in 24/96.

[armogi]

well, it seems the 24bit and standard CD of KEA are both DR8, so probably not much to expect either way... sure beats DM though ;)

[tricil]

Has anyone heard the KEA or RTL remasters? Thoughts?

I got the RTL remaster. It's great. You can hear so much more Cliff. I'm excited for Justice for this reason. ;)

[GulDukat]

I got the RTL remaster. It's great. You can hear so much more Cliff. I'm excited for Justice for this reason. ;)
Are there plans to reissue AJFA?

[tricil]

Are there plans to reissue AJFA?

They will all be reissued.

[onthewall2983]

Are they doing the post-Black Album stuff too?

[The Doctor]

Are there plans to reissue AJFA?


More importantly, have they moved past their dickishness and allow us to actually HEAR Jason Newsted's bass lines? I can't remember where I read it recently but the producer or guy who recorded it said that Jason laid down amazing bass lines for it that no one has heard because he was forced to turn them down all the way.

[Conan The Barbarian]

Oh yea I'm sure they will turn the bass up this time. But even Newstead says that he doesn't care because that album accomplished what it needed to do.

And justice for all is my first Metallica record and my favorite.

[onthewall2983]

I'd like to see a Load/Reload edition, where one of the extra discs is a whittled down version of the best songs from each disc (maybe include alternate takes, mixes, etc. to set itself apart from the original recordings). Bruce Springsteen sort of did that for his special edition of The River ​where one of the discs was a single-LP version.

[Archive_Reports]

Justice is probably their best, but damn do I love Master of Puppets.

[seasonsinthesky]

No way. AJFA is way too repetitive and bloated. There isn't a single unnecessary note on MOP.

[Mr. Blaileen]

Puppets is classic up and down the tracklist, but AJFA will always be closest to my heart. It has some of my favorite Metallica songs: Blackened, One, Dyer's Eve.

[Space Suicide]

After coming around after my last post a year or so ago denouncing everything, I have come to the conclusion hat Ride the Lightning is a phenomenal album. it clicked with me eventually of about 10+ years of attempts. If they had kept up that style and ferocity I'd have been a fan of just about everything. The title track is my favorite thing they've ever recorded minus what I stated a page ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebInqG1pJI

[GulDukat]

After coming around after my last post a year or so ago denouncing everything, I have come to the conclusion hat Ride the Lightning is a phenomenal album. it clicked with me eventually of about 10+ years of attempts. If they had kept up that style and ferocity I'd have been a fan of just about everything. The title track is my favorite thing they've ever recorded minus what I stated a page ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebInqG1pJI
I just listened to RTL a while ago on my jog. Amazing album and the remastered edition sounds incredible.

[GulDukat]

LuLu was pretty awesome, just felt the need to repeat that.

[Shadaloo]

...for me to poop on!
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/triumph.jpeg


My personal favorites: Justice, Load

[thevoid99]

For me, Metallica's best work are Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and And Justice for All. That is a great trilogy of albums while I do hold Kill 'Em All, Death Magnetic, and The Black Album in high regard while Load and Reload have their moments. St. Anger for me is their worst album.

[LaneSax]

Ride the Lightning is their best effort imo
Personally enjoy all their albums

[Ryan]

LuLu was pretty awesome, just felt the need to repeat that.

I've never listened to it, but the title and album cover make me want to punch baby birds.

[seasonsinthesky]

I've never listened to it, but the title and album cover make me want to punch baby birds.

Don't.ten characters

[bobbie solo]

Do it...Try it.

[bobbie solo]

Hey, remember when good drummers filled in for Lars and we were reminded how fucking terrible he is, and how much better Metallica could sound without his sloppy ass (Hey Kurt....you're sloppy as fuck too)?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8tbNptFPMU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRWVeHq-oWU

Sure, there are mistakes at times (Joey cannot get the tempo down for Four Horsemen for example), but that's b/c of the rushed nature of this coming together. Overall, both of them provide much tighter drums than Lars on his own songs. Lombardo replacing Lars full-time (esp. now that he doesn't have a full-time band) would be AMAZING.

[opal]

Don't have time to watch these vids now, but I remember that Jordison sounded terrible. His style did not fit those Tallica songs at all. Lots of "overdrumming" (yes, even more than Lars has been doing in recent times).

[LaneSax]

bad news...

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-expanded-release-of-no-life-til-leather-delayed-due-to-legal-issues/

but some good news!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-begins-mixing-new-album/

[october_midnight]

New album is "Hardwired...To Self Destruct". (http://pitchfork.com/news/67644-metallica-announce-new-album-hardwiredto-self-destruct-share-new-hardwired-video-watch/?mbid=social_twitter)

http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/20160818_193928_7549_939483.jpeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I

Double album. 80 minutes long. Streets on November 18th.

[GulDukat]

Hardwired to...Self-Destruct

11/18

http://loudwire.com/metallica-new-album-hardwired-music-video/

[GulDukat]

New album is "Hardwired...To Self Destruct". (http://pitchfork.com/news/67644-metallica-announce-new-album-hardwiredto-self-destruct-share-new-hardwired-video-watch/?mbid=social_twitter)

http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/20160818_193928_7549_939483.jpeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I

Double album. 80 minutes long. Streets on November 18th.
If it's 80 minutes, couldn't they have trimmed off 60 seconds somewhere and put it on a single disc?

New song is decent. Nothing amazing, but solid.

Album artwork is awful, imho. Very, very goofy.

[thefragile_jake]

That album art is hilariously bad. Holy shit...

[Shadaloo]

It's the thing that should not be...but in visual form.

Possibly too-loud drums aside I like the song. Doesn't wear out its welcome.

[Conan The Barbarian]

The artowork is pretty bad, but at least the song kicks ass.

All I see is Lars.

[GulDukat]

I like the song, but it has a by-the-numbers feel. At least with Load/ReLoad they weren't trying to rehash their old formula.

[Krazy]

It looks like some hack tried using the NIN glitch art-work. "Hard Wired To Self Destruct" even sounds like a '90's industrial era title.

Gonna listen to it later, still at work trying to get some shit done.

[Ryan]

New album is "Hardwired...To Self Destruct". (http://pitchfork.com/news/67644-metallica-announce-new-album-hardwiredto-self-destruct-share-new-hardwired-video-watch/?mbid=social_twitter)

http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/20160818_193928_7549_939483.jpeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBHL3v4d3I

Double album. 80 minutes long. Streets on November 18th.



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Dave_Gahan_and_Soulsavers%2C_Angels_%26_Ghosts_cov er.jpg

[barkhammer]

Reminds me of the alternative/rejected cover art for Alice In Chains' Facelift album that was used in their Music Bank box set that is also hilariously bad...

https://67.media.tumblr.com/4d540ebddb80d446869c4748fee6f5a7/tumblr_nmdlxcS6z61txf6rio1_500.jpg

[thevoid99]

I think the album cover is pretty bad but the new song is awesome.

[thelastdisciple]

The artwork for Hardwired on Spotify is even worse lol

Enjoying the new track well enough though!

[Krazy]

The music is half way decent!

Dem lyrics though...

[onthewall2983]

Dig the song, and the album cover too. Shades of Lulu.

[Space Suicide]

I'm surprised by how solid the single is. Nothing amazing but it's not a wimpy release.

Album art is garbage. I understand what its trying to do but it fails at it by the execution.

[bobbie solo]

Once again, Metallica can't get out of their own way.

[profane]

I gotta admit, it takes huge balls to release a shit song like this.

[bobbie solo]

musically, its got alot to like about it. good riffs, nice and fast. But as has been said, Lars is WAY too high in the mix. Even if his drumming was better and had more interesting fills to it, it would still be too high. It's distracting. Add in that the drumming is pretty straight forward, there's no reason for them to be this loud.

James' lyrics are laughable. Normally that can be ignored in metal, but some of the lines are given such a showcase in parts of the song that you can't help but focus on how goofy they are. Especially from an intelligent older man like James, with a history of great lyrics in the (distant) past. Bummer.

that artwork. there are no words. Fire everyone who thought this was a good idea.

[Krazy]

James' lyrics are laughable. Normally that can be ignored in metal, but some of the lines are given such a showcase in parts of the song that you can't help but focus on how goofy they are. Especially from an intelligent older man like James, with a history of great lyrics in the (distant) past. Bummer.


I never thought he would top "My lifestyle... determines my death style". Here we are- ouch.

Decent tune musically for sure.

[mrselfdestruct94]

Solid song, it's short, sweet, and to the point; a thrasher that leaves you wanting more. It's a strong single, and I'm looking forward to the album.

[Space Suicide]

I never thought he would top "My lifestyle... determines my death style". Here we are- ouch.

Decent tune musically for sure.


We're so fucked, shit out of luck. :p

[onthewall2983]

It's prescient social commentary.

[henryeatscereal]

Decent track, at least it seems we aren't dealing with another St. Anger here (trying to be optimistic here...), lyrics are cheesy but so are most of the lyrics from "kill em' all" and i don't hear anyone complaining...

[bobbie solo]

Yes, and then James grew as a lyricist for years and years, and then regressed dramatically after Load/Reload (the lyrics are not the problem with those releases). And he's getting worse.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcDHVg-u-c

[Jon]

If it's 80 minutes, couldn't they have trimmed off 60 seconds somewhere and put it on a single disc?

Please no, not interested in repeating what happened to "Outlaw Torn".

[elevenism]

well goddamn, i didn't expect the boys to ever go back to playing actual speed metal.

Now that i'm 36 and not 14, i'm not as into it, but goddamn, that new track is fairly impressive.

I had to listen to Blackened afterwards, and Battery.

BA-TU-RAY!!!!

[Jinsai]

I'm surprised by the negative response. This isn't my genre really, and I'm not a huge Metallica fan... never really was. But this is the best sounding thing they've put out since Master of Puppets. Yeah, the drums are fucking loud and in your face, but they sit in the mix properly and finally sound good and aggressively heavy. I've disagreed with some producer friends about the tone of the guitars, but I think it sounds pretty classic heavy. Everything sounds great in this track except for Hetfield's vocals... I'm not just talking about the lyrics, which are predictable, but I don't care about lyrics in most metal music. It's just... They could have made this a complete shocker by distorting his vocals and dropping them in the mix a bit, especially for the verses.

It's the heaviest song from a mainstream band in ages. Not sure why people are so turned off by it.

[onthewall2983]

Drums are never too loud for me, as long as you can hear everything else fine.

[Vertigo]

Can't agree with that. Satellite's drums are the main reason I wish we had Hesitation Marks multitracks.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZan1NsiAYs

[Krazy]

Huh... Didn't know they were playing shows.

I agree reed with just about everything Jinsai said, other than the Master of Puppets comment- Justice was fantastic.

More i I listen the more it sounds like a Slayer song, minus the lyrics/singing... I mean that in a positive way. Hoping the upcoming release is at least better than Death Magnetic, not looking for anything ground breaking or great or timeless from them anymore.

[ziltoid]

I never seen this before let alone any footage with Cliff playing at all. It's just breath taking to see him play live with the band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDQl4gT3jA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEMTKRKA4mM

I don't mind the new song it's not terrible and not excellent. In my opinion they got nowhere to go but up at this point.

[Shadaloo]

I feel like there's an entire generation of people out there now who just grew up hearing Metallica lambasted as a bad joke of a band and the living, go-to example of 'selling out' and/or losing credibility, hence most of whatever backlash comes whenever they do anything new. While perhaps it's not entirely unmerited, I can't say I always find it fair.

Yeah, Lars is a little shit but the band's good output far and away eclipses their bad. I'm nowhere near the fan I was in my early teenage years, but I'll always give whatever they put out a shot. As long as the music's good I could care less about the band politics.

Load and Reload, while flawed here and there, get way too much of a bad rep, and Death Magnetic is a decent album; the Guitar Hero 3 mix is the only way to go to listen to it, however.

St Anger and Lulu are the only things I'd describe as staggeringly awful. I can't hate these guys; they introduced me to Motorhead, ffs.

[bobbie solo]

Huh... Didn't know they were playing shows.

I think they got offered a gazillion dollars to be the first event happening at the new football stadium in Minneapolis.

[richardp]

I think they got offered a gazillion dollars to be the first event happening at the new football stadium in Minneapolis.

Yup from what I've heard, they as a band are or were pretty far down in the hole financially, so they've been taking any offer they get. Hence the random X-Games concert and all the weird private corporate shows.

[bobbie solo]

Yup from what I've heard, they as a band are or were pretty far down in the hole financially, so they've been taking any offer they get. Hence the random X-Games concert and all the weird private corporate shows.


Metallica have been taking a lot of risks the last few years, and it looks like those risks are catching up with them financially. The band themselves admitted that their self-curated Orion Festival was a financial disaster (http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/james-hetfield-says-metallicas-orion-festival-was-a-financial-disaster) and their movie, Through the Never tanked (http://www.metalinjection.net/its-just-business/metallica-rationalize-why-through-the-never-was-a-box-office-bomb). Now, a new report from The Weeklings (http://www.theweeklings.com/j-m-blaine/2015/03/09/metallica-rock-city-a-conversation-with-into-the-black-authors-paul-brannigan-ian-winwood/) claims the band has lost more money than they have been bringing in since 2010.
The article interviews Paul Brannigan and Ian Winwood who just wrote a new biography on the band, Into The Black, and in tracking the band's expenses, he can't see how they're pulling any money in currently:

“Well, over the past five years Metallica have embarked upon a variety of vanity projects that haven’t exactly brought home the bacon. By their own admission, the two stagings of the Orion festival were disastrous financially, and the shambles that was the Through The Never movie cost $32 million and will only recoup a fraction of that amount. Factor in HQ staff salaries, crew retainers and assorted running costs associated with maintaining an entertainment corporation and you can easily understand why the band – of necessity now rather than by choice – are driven to tour Europe every summer. No one is going to shed any tears upon hearing Metallica pleading poverty, but over the past decade their margins will undoubtedly have taken a hammering.”
Later adding…

“The whole Through The Never film project was a horrible misjudgement, a misguided attempt to breathe new life into a decade-old idea. As the film spiraled horribly over-budget it’s hard not to imagine that at least one band member – and let’s be honest, we’re talking about James Hetfield here – thinking ‘What the fuck have we got ourselves into?’ Quite how that ‘script’ ever got the green light is an unfathomable mystery.”

http://www.metalinjection.net/its-just-business/new-report-claims-metallica-lost-more-money-than-they-made-since-2010

[onthewall2983]

What was really stupid about Through The Never is it only got a one-day release in theaters. Which is too bad because the movie is okay. You have to give them credit for going out on a limb with those projects. Not only that, but bankrolling it themselves now that they are an island onto themselves in the record business.

Both of Brannigan and Winwood's books on the band are great.

[leo3375]

I think they got offered a gazillion dollars to be the first event happening at the new football stadium in Minneapolis.

It was the third event at the stadium. Luke Bryan (*gag*) played there the night before, and there was a soccer match between Chelsea and AC Milan on August 3.

But I digress. I heard the acoustics for Luke Bryan sucked. Metallica was better. I could hear everything from where I was. One of the mics seemed to be having problems, but other than that it sounded all right to me. It could be that Metallica was better prepared for that sort of setting. Hopefully the event staff at US Bank Stadium took notes on what Metallica did so that they can improve the concertgoing experience there. One thing for sure: that place is gonna be LOUD for football games.

EDIT: Not my video, but they played "Leper Messiah" live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmMXYJkTGEc

[Conan The Barbarian]

I wouldn't worry about them being broke. Black album constantly sells. If they stop making stupid financial gambles they will be rolling in that dough again.

[Space Suicide]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14046106_10153616703237003_6146042526351098861_n.j pg?oh=35dd4f2bf33ab3c8bb2819681d594af1&oe=5857F852

where my Adult Swim fans at?!

[leo3375]

I want this on a shirt. They really should have sold t-shirts with this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqW54epUEAARqji.jpg

[Jinsai]

Huh... Didn't know they were playing shows.

I agree reed with just about everything Jinsai said, other than the Master of Puppets comment- Justice was fantastic.

It's probably the production aspect, but the lack of bass, and the story surrounding that issue, it really bums me out. Listening to this new track on a good treated system, I think sure, take the drums (EG snare) down a dB or two would help, but I would love to have control of the vocal in this song.

[center27j]

i dont know what it is, but the sound/production/mastering is awful. the overall sound is just so terrible, the song is bad anyway but sonically something is just off with all their releases. there's no depth, no thickness....everything just sounds thin and weak. maybe someone with an audio background can provide some detail behind how a band can release something that sounds so amazing (black album...i'm talking strictly the sound) and revert to this awfulness.

[armogi]

Not too bad but where is the bass in that song?

[Space Suicide]

This is cool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE2rgWFAO2A

[liquidcalm]

Listening back to Death Magnetic and I still really dig a lot of it, just it sounds so flat on my good headphones. On laptop speakers/earbuds its fine, but cranking the volume it just falls apart. It sounds like every instrument is just right there on either side of you, in comparison, Load and Reload sound like a band really making the most of the studio and building a sense of place (I could never be a true fan, Load/Reload are my favourite albums of theirs...)

[Conan The Barbarian]

I guess search for the guitar hero version of the album. It sounds better

[LaneSax]

updated tracklist for the new record (disc 3), I like it a lot better!

Disc One


Hardwired
Atlas, Rise!
Now That We’re Dead
Moth Into Flame
Dream No More
Halo On Fire

Disc Two


Confusion
ManUNkind
Here Comes Revenge
Am I Savage?
Murder One
Spit Out the Bone

Disc Three (Bonus)


Lords of Summer (2016)
Ronnie Rising Medley
When a Blind Man Cries
Remember Tomorrow
Helpless (Live at Rasputin Music)
Hit the Lights (Live at Rasputin Music)
The Four Horsemen (Live at Rasputin Music)
Ride the Lightning (Live at Rasputin Music)
Fade to Black (Live at Rasputin Music)
Jump in the Fire (Live at Rasputin Music)
For Whom the Bell Tolls (Live at Rasputin Music)
Creeping Death (Live at Rasputin Music)
Metal Militia (Live at Rasputin Music)
Hardwired (Live in Minneapolis)

[armogi]

demos would have been better imo, we already have all of that, no point really. especially on a deluxe album.
and where is that remaster no life till leather demo????

[LaneSax]

Heard there are some legal stuff behind the release of No Life....

I don't mind having those covers on cd over just digital copies

[bobbie solo]

Holy Crap!! These kids are ridiculous. Trust me, watch the whole thing...you'll have a smile on your face the entire time, and their performance will surprise you at times too. SO cool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYqxla8RXcc

[Atu]

Mandatory comment that the drummer is actually better than Lars.

EDIT: What was the last thing they played?

[LaneSax]

new video!

https://metallica.com/blog/news/433809/track-two-moth-into-flame


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iprubvCfdM

[bobbie solo]

how are they making these solid songs at this point? I'm shocked. Good for them.

James' lyrics are still weak though. He's so on the nose all the time. It's not clever.

[buckaroo]

how are they making these solid songs at this point? I'm shocked. Good for them.

James' lyrics are still weak though. He's so on the nose all the time. It's not clever.

Yeah, I'm shocked also. I thought the first single was sort of bad and, in general, I don't think their music is good save for a few pretty great moments. However, this new song was pretty enjoyable and makes me think there is potential for them to have some memorable songs this time. By far the best thing they have released since Load/Reload.

[Maximilian]

That song is fucking awesome.

[Space Suicide]

Not bad, not bad at all.