The Caffeine Thread

[Halo Infinity]

I've always liked soda and coffee, but have also gotten into energy drinks a few years ago. I don't drink them as much as soda and coffee though, but I'll admit that I can sometimes find them to be very addictive. I've also been hooked on iced coffee for quite some time, and was pleasantly surprised to be able to get iced coffee at Burger King. I also get iced coffee from Dunkin' Donuts. I love any flavors that combine iced coffee with honey, chocolate, mint chocolate, or vanilla. As for my favorite energy drink, it would have to be Monster Energy, but I've also ended up liking NY Razor. As for the soda, I like Mountain Dew and Dr Pepper for my caffeine fix.

[Fixer808]

I would fold this in with "What Are You Eating?" if I were a mod. I'm not, but that's my opinion...

[Halo Infinity]

I can see what you mean there, but I thought it was an okay idea, considering how we have separate threads for ice cream, peanut butter and alcohol.

[playwithfire]

I know coffee. I know good coffee, but I'll drink almost anything. Most days I drink Starbucks VIA because it's convenient and I get it for free. I'll happily drink instant coffee. I don't care. I just like coffee.

That said, my favorite origin of coffees tend to be anywhere African, and naturally/dry processed. The best coffee I've ever had was done as a pour-over. I like citrus/berry notes.

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/762660b.jpg is my energy drink of choice.

Soda does nothing to me. I don't drink it for the caffeine, but I like diet coke and orange soda.

[rhet]

the best coffee I ever had was in a cafe in Berlin. I don't know what method they were using but there were lots of beakers and sciencey looking equipment about. At home I usually do French press on the weekends and instant during the week when I can't be bothered. I also drink iced coffee year round. Love that shit.

[marodi]

Caffeine = the perfect drug.

As for my taste in coffee, they are pretty well known to everyone who's ever check the Blame Canada thread. Oh Tim...

[Your Name Here]

Coffee is my crutch and my filthy whore. I can get nearly homicidal without it.

I think this is a cool thread so a couple of questions for you caffeine enthusiasts, I dig Starbucks where do you get your coffee? Starbucks, Coffee Bean, or some cool cafe that is exclusive in your city. The one off Coffee places interest me because some of them are quite good.

Second question, what do you like to eat with your coffee? Bagels, Muffin, oatmeal, me I like a small piece of chocolate with my coffee.

Also Im hardcore when comes to coffee I don't put anything in it, accept more shots of espresso

Venti coffee with one shot is called a red eye, two shots is a black eye, three shots i call it "My blackhearted soul", I did four once before a Bowie concert. Im never doing that again. The four shots, I would go to a Bowie show any chance I get.

Final question how do you take your coffee?

[Demogorgon]

4 shots is a standard Cafe Americano at starbucks. i get them all the time. venti, with a little room for cream. at home i generally grind my own beans and brew it in the Keurig in the washable cup. cheap and effective.

[allegro]

My favorite coffee is the coffee I make at home in my Cuisinart coffee maker (http://www.cuisinart.com/products/coffee_makers/dcc-1200.html). For some reason, people (including my own mother) comment that I make a damned good pot of coffee. I tend to use medium to dark roasts. I used to grind the beans but determined that it didn't matter a whole lot. I store coffee in the fridge to keep it fresh. And I use unbleached paper filters (I stopped using the gold filter because it seemed to negatively affect the coffee). I have a French Press that I use sometimes when I'm in the mood.

At night, I drink caffeine-free Diet Coke otherwise I'd be up until 2 a.m.

I guess the bottom line is that I don't drink coffee or Diet Coke for the caffeine; I drink them because I really enjoy them and they happen to contain caffeine.

Oh, and I put milk in my coffee. Hence why I tend to use a darker roast.

[aggroculture]

I have always hated/been intolerant to coffee and caffeine.
When I was a college student I had some kind of pepsi-induced meltdown with massive migraines (wrong glasses prescription might have also contributed): I was chugging the stuff without knowing I was intolerant.
The only time I can safely drink coke is when I'm sick with a cold or flu. Then it really helps.
The only time I can safely have a coffee is when I'm hungover. Yummy cappuccino.
Sometimes I forget all this and have a coffee: the high is great; the low, which comes a couple of hours later, brings me a crippling negative/depressed/paranoid/miserable/anxious feeling. It's really horrible.

I hate caffeine.

But a cup of tea in the morning, with the teabag dipped in for like 5 seconds is OK. I am British after all.

[allegro]

Do you drink non-caffeinated tea? I also love tea; I have a large assortment of teas, tea pots, tea cups. But I have caffeine-free teas for nighttime (chamomile, Sleepy Time, decaffeinated Earl Grey, English Breakfast and Chai).

[aggroculture]

I drink peppermint tea in the evening.
Earl Grey and English Breakfast are good, but I haven't tried them decaffeinated.
Sometimes I will get a decaf coffee.
Green tea is the absolute worst, it makes me horribly horny. It's the weirdest thing.
As for Chai…can't get into it.

[allegro]

Caffeine helps consolidate long term memory (http://m.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/01/study-caffeine-can-improve-memory/283016/).

[aggroculture]

Who sponsors these studies? Who has an interest in saying that coffee is good for you?
Caffeine is a capitalist drug, send you to work, make you more productive, all buzzing to get work done efficiently. Cigarettes used to be the same when everyone smoked in the office.

[Dra508]

My favorite coffee is the coffee I make at home in my Cuisinart coffee maker (http://www.cuisinart.com/products/coffee_makers/dcc-1200.html). For some reason, people (including my own mother) comment that I make a damned good pot of coffee. I tend to use medium to dark roasts. I used to grind the beans but determined that it didn't matter a whole lot. I store coffee in the fridge to keep it fresh. And I use unbleached paper filters (I stopped using the gold filter because it seemed to negatively affect the coffee). I have a French Press that I use sometimes when I'm in the mood.

.OK, I'm your doppelgänger. I have the same machine, same filters, and have a Fench press too. Recently, the coffee hasn't been as strong to my liking. Need to figure out why. Clean the machine, make a larger pot, I dunno.

I've greatly reduced my coffee intake in the past couple of years. No particular reason, used to drink coffee all morning and then stop all caffeine intake around noon. My sleep is to precious to be effected by too much caffeine late in the day.



I also love tea; I have a large assortment of teas, tea pots, tea cups. But I have caffeine-free teas for nighttime (chamomile, Sleepy Time, decaffeinated Earl Grey, English Breakfast and Chai).
Love all those too. Taken a recent liking to Ginger and Egyptian Licorice teas from Yogi. Nom nom.

[Fixer808]

Do you drink non-caffeinated tea? I also love tea; I have a large assortment of teas, tea pots, tea cups. But I have caffeine-free teas for nighttime (chamomile, Sleepy Time, decaffeinated Earl Grey, English Breakfast and Chai).

Sleepytime is the shit, love it. Big on Earl Grey (hot, lol), green and peppermint (sometimes in the same cup), and just started getting into chai. My dad gave me a couple boxes of Stash chai that I have yet to break in to, but I like it hot and milky!

[allegro]

OK, I'm your doppelgänger. I have the same machine, same filters ... Recently, the coffee hasn't been as strong to my liking. Need to figure out why. Clean the machine, make a larger pot, I dunno.
Are you using the same brand of coffee? Sometimes, I swear, I can be using the same brand forever and then suddenly the coffee is crap and I have to switch. I never use this coffee maker for 4 cups, I only use it for 6 or more. If I want less than 6, I use the French Press. Also, when I make a pot of coffee, I add a little more coffee than required. I use a scoop (2 cups per scoop) and then i add about 1/3 scoop extra (e.g. for a pot of 6, I use 3 1/3 scoops). Do you change out that little carbon filter thing?


Sleepytime is the shit, love it.
There's something so awesome about a cup of Sleepytime in the evening, just plain and not too hot.

When I drink Earl Grey or English Breakfast (caf or decaf), I add lemon and sugar. And I use two tea bags per cup and steep the living shit out of it before adding the lemon and sugar.

I used to boil a kettle on my gas stove, but then I read about the European preference for electric kettles so I bought myself an electric kettle and I *love* it, it boils water SO much faster!

I have a really cool cast iron Japanese tea pot for my green teas -- loose or bags -- and it keeps the tea hot FOR-EV-ER.

[Fixer808]

I've got a nice little 1 liter electric kettle that works quite well, boils quickly. It was only $10 at Zellers! I don't have a tea pot, but then, I don't normally make more then a cup at a time... Sleepytime is good with a little bit of regular or creamed honey.

Oh, and I went to David's Tea to find gifts for family for Xmas. Ended up trying and buying some gingerbread tea that I gave to my grandpa. It was REALLY good!

[Big Fat Matt]

i drink anywhere from 20-60 oz of (sugarfree, like it fucking matters) redbull per day. combine that with the pack of smokes i breathe in, and ill be dead by 40!


seriously though, when i meet people that are like "no i dont need caffeine" i look at them like "man, what the hell is your problem?"

[Dra508]

allegro You're right, I completely forgot about that little filter. I've been putting water from my Brita for awhile now, but clearly it's own filter should be useful .

I do need to change coffee beans. Recently, I bought some super market Dunkin Donut beans and let me tell you people, I'm pretty dam sure they are not the same beans you get when you buy them @ a Dunkin Donuts.

Further proof great minds: I have a cast iron tea pot too. I really should use it more. It was a thoughtful gift.

[playwithfire]

I have a strong preference for single origin beans, but there are great blends.

Latin American beans tend to have more acidity and see the widest use. Asia/Pacific tends to have low acidity with really lovely woodsy/earth notes. African beans have the widest variety and I love them and you get all sorts of crazy notes.

Freezing beans is something debated in terms of maintaining their freshness.

The best cup of coffee I've ever had was a Tanzanian pour-over from Think Coffee. So much citrus wonderfulness.

I've had Clovers (which would be the runner up), french presses, etc. Need to try more cold-brewed. But I just really like so much about making coffee with the pour over method. It's so simple and makes such amazing coffee.

[JessicaSarahS]

I loved caffeine and I miss it so much! After an accidental caffeine overdose, I am now extremely sensitive to any amounts of caffeine. Life is so cruel. :( I wish they made caffeine free versions of my favorite energy drinks because I miss the flavors. At least I can still tolerate decaf coffee, as long as I chug a bunch of water afterwards.

[ambergris]

Who sponsors these studies? Who has an interest in saying that coffee is good for you?
Caffeine is a capitalist drug, send you to work, make you more productive, all buzzing to get work done efficiently. Cigarettes used to be the same when everyone smoked in the office.

Starbucks does, for example. Here in Germany, our private TV stations often have shitty superficial corporate-sponsored pseudo-documentaries along the lines of "It's the biggest fast food company in the world, thousands of people work tirelessly to provide customers with burgers, fries and drinks. Watch how McDonald's works!" Last month, they had something about Starbucks ("Watch what made the company so successful!"), beginning the show with another study of how good coffee is for your body.

[Halo Infinity]

Who sponsors these studies? Who has an interest in saying that coffee is good for you?
Caffeine is a capitalist drug, send you to work, make you more productive, all buzzing to get work done efficiently. Cigarettes used to be the same when everyone smoked in the office.
I've always thought that caffeine could be great for parties and concerts, as I've drank an energy drink or iced coffee before a show, and you'd think caffeine would be perfect for people that love the dance at night. And in social settings, it has also helped me loosen up while being more alert with what I said and did.

I also didn't really see caffeine in the way you saw it though. (I'm not going further than that on that part of your post, as I also don't mean to argue, but I really haven't seen it that way before.)

[theimage13]

I am almost 100% caffeine free.

I suffer from severe panic attacks, sometimes for seemingly no reason whatsoever (i.e. I'm not consciously anxious about anything). My heart does stupid enough things on its own without adding stimulants into the mix.

However, I do like black coffee - so I just order it and laugh at the bizarre looks that I get every single time I drink it.

[Ryan]

Drinking my morning coffee now. Caffeine has no effect on me apart from making me poo faster in the morning.

[liquidcalm]

I love coffee, however do watch my intake, and only really have the good stuff at the weekends. The odd americano after lunch as helps beat back post-lunch sleepy feels. Took me a while but I stopped having sugar in tea and coffee about 3 years ago and after getting over the fact I could actually taste the difference beans and blends made I'll never go back.
I can't, however, understand energy drinks, not the small cans, but the big ones that look like cans of lager. I see kids like 10-12 walking around town drinking them with that 'I shouldn't be having this.. check out how badass I am' and I'm like 'whoa, what? you are tiny, why are you pumping yourself full of chemicals?!'. I secretly hope they all develop heart problems. I don't really like fizzy drinks anyway, but cmon, who really needs that much caffeine and glucose etc to function? You're not running a marathon.

[Space Suicide]

Dr. Pepper! MTN Dew! Cherry Coke! Mello Yellow! Sundrop!

[bruised]

So awesome to find this thread! I've been into coffee for a couple of years now, but just recently got interested in it. Just got a kuerig (lol), and looking into getting a grinder and some real beans. Does anyone have any suggestions? I like strong coffee, something that's gonna get me going haha. How about some of these coffee subscription sites?

[NotoriousTIMP]

Please take it from me when it comes to energy drinks.....DO. NOT. DRINK. THEM. I ended up with two kidney stones about three years ago as a result to my daily (yes, five times a week) consumption of Rockstar. It was a replacement from my morning starbucks run because it was cheaper and had the same effect to help me kickstart my day. Having a stint with a piece of floss come out of my pee hole for a month and half was not fun. I bleed constantly and it was like I was pissing razor blades.

Now coffee on the other hand, I LIVE BY THAT STUFF. :) My morning cup is a venti iced coffee with no classic, 2x sweet n low, 2x add shots, and 2% milk. If it's my day off and I'm at home, I do a single cup of Death Wish coffee and hazelnut creamer with 1/2 of a sweet n low packet.


So awesome to find this thread! I've been into coffee for a couple of years now, but just recently got interested in it. Just got a kuerig (lol), and looking into getting a grinder and some real beans. Does anyone have any suggestions? I like strong coffee, something that's gonna get me going haha. How about some of these coffee subscription sites?

I say ditch the Kuerig and get a ceramic dripper (http://http://www.amazon.com/Tanors-Ceramic-Coffee-Dripper-Filter/dp/B00JNZ7VNW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420371502&sr=8-1&keywords=ceramic+dripper])....I thought the Keurig was such a great idea until I had a cup of coffee through one of these. The water gets a chance to steep longer in the grinds and gives off a stronger flavor than the Keurig ever did. (Not to mention that the Keurig 2.0 has a DRM-like restriction (http://www.businessinsider.com/keurig-20-scathing-reviews-2014-11) that prevents you from using non-keurig k-cups)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/cingularrox/dripper_zpsbdce4b68.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/cingularrox/media/dripper_zpsbdce4b68.jpg.html)

Then I highly recommend Death Wish Coffee (http://www.amazon.com/Death-Wish-Coffee-Strongest-Organic/dp/B006CQ1ZHI/ref=pd_sim_gro_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Y07SWXNKMH771JWJH17]) (dark roast) and their Odinforce Blend (http://www.amazon.com/Valhalla-Coffee-Death-Wish-Company/dp/B00FL7J3O6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420371978&sr=8-1&keywords=valhalla+java]) (medium roast)

[Ryan]

Drinking my morning coffee now. Caffeine has no effect on me apart from making me poo faster in the morning.

Thanks for hitting like on this now a year after I initially posted it. LOL

[implanted_microchip]

I've been wanting to get a French press sometime soon but have no idea what I should get. There's a ton of brands and price ranges and I have no idea if I should wait and get a more expensive one or if a cheaper one is just as good. I read the /r/coffee subreddit but it's mostly people just railing against Starbucks and saying that you need to buy your beans locally, etc., with very little help beyond that.

[millionmilesaway]

caffeine is not my friend, within half an hour of drinking coffee I start to shake so badly that I can barely write and I can physically feel my heart beating faster. I will drink the occasional cup when it is offered but it has to have milk and sugar.
I do drink lots of tea but mostly caffeine free herbal. chai or roobios in the morning and peppermint or sleepytime at night. I did get some awesome whole leaf white tea recently that I went through way too fast.
not had soda in years, it was always too sweet for me

[Exocet]

In the past 15 years i have had about 3 days without Caffeine. I cant function without it. The second i wake up i run to the kettle half asleep. The first sip of coffee is a real hit. I cant communicate with you until i have my first coffee. Im a vicious miserable snappy cunt without my coffee.
Its just something i do, its so ingrained in me.
i love Tea sometimes, but its nowhere near the same level of my love for coffee.
I also loved Diet Coke but had to stop drinking it becuase i got addicted to it. I was drinking litres of it a day. And would feel hungover the next day. Crazy. Ive met many who also picked up an addiction to it too. Its really under-documented. It sometimes made me feel in large amounts (pepsi max) like i was on crappy speed. So yeah that went out the window. Never really got into energy drinks. They never really worked for me i found.
But no one is going to take coffee away from me. Simple Nescafe instant is fine anything that does the job!

[playwithfire]

I've been wanting to get a French press sometime soon but have no idea what I should get. There's a ton of brands and price ranges and I have no idea if I should wait and get a more expensive one or if a cheaper one is just as good. I read the /r/coffee subreddit but it's mostly people just railing against Starbucks and saying that you need to buy your beans locally, etc., with very little help beyond that.

I strongly prefer pourover sets or Clevers, French Press coffee keeps a lot of oil and goes off faster. That said, Bodum makes nice and easy to care for presses.

[botley]

Fucking mainlined yesterday; drained a ten-cup pot of drip while double-fisting a big bottle of Coke Zero. Woke up to an automatically-brewed fresh pot today — the cycle continues.

[binaryhermit]

This thread made* me make 2 cups of tea... one cup of Tazo Sweet Cinnamon Spice, one cup of Bigelow English Teatime.



*For varying values of "made"

[Sarah K]

I just eat caffeine pills like candy. Which doctors believe caused the walnut sized mass I had to get removed from my boob when I was 19... But, ya know...

For coffee, I absolutely LOVE Cafe Du Monde's French Roast coffee. I've yet to find it anywhere in NYC, so have to order it online. But worth it.

[Calla lily]

Love coffee. I have 2-4 cups of drip coffee in the morning. I add a little milk, or cream or half & half if I have it. I have an espresso machine and grinder and have 1-2 lattes in the afternoon/evening. Love, love, love my espresso machine and if I'm out and can't make my own, I'll settle for Starbucks or other coffee houses. Just espresso and milk, no flavors. I need to drop the 8-9 o'clock pm latte though as it's keeping me up too late. I don't like tea and rarely drink soda.

[green]

I think Dunkin' Donuts brand whole bean tastes the best, for an everyday coffee. The absolute best coffee I've ever had, is at my local Waffle House. I don't know if it's psychological because of the great smells in there, but that coffee is perfect without having to add anything.

[Calla lily]

For my espressos, I usually prefer cheap 8 o'clock whole bean over any I can get locally, although I haven't tried looking very far. Starbuck beans suck, too oily. Dunkin Donuts is ok too. The best beans I ever got was a custom blend I got in some small coffee shop in the Georgia mountains years ago. I forgot the name of the shop. For drip, we usually get Folders, although currently have Chock Full o'Nuts.

[blackholesun]

I'm a tea guy. Lately I've been drinking Prince of Peace's Oolong. I'm a fan of "earthy" tasting teas, so this is right up my alley, plus it makes me feel great! The caffeine helps, I'm sure. I'll drink some non-caffeinated green tea in the afternoon just to stay warm in my cold office.

I've never gotten into coffee. I love the smell of coffee and even stuff like coffee flavored ice cream or candy, but the taste of coffee has always turned me off.

I stopped drinking soda a few years ago, with a relapse last summer. Shit is addicting.

Energy drinks make me jittery and have to constantly pee. No thanks.

[bruised]

Thanks, but I like it!

[halloween]

I met someone recently who said he never got into drugs or drinking and doesn't drink coffee either, except for that time in college when he would drink 5 cups a day or even chew on coffee beans themselves (not even the chocolate covered kind!) because he wanted to be productive. I drink coffee regularly but never more than a cup a day and if I don't have to do anything that day, I may not even drink coffee or - gasp!- I drink decaf! I highly enjoy the taste of coffee and feel sad when I hear stories such as this guy who doesn't like coffee but abused it to such an extent that he had withdrawal headaches and generally felt crappy.

So, I guess I'll make this a PSA: If you want to be productive because you're on a deadline and feeling tired- TAKE A SHORT NAP! Don't abuse caffeine! It will have the opposite effect than you'd like!!

[halloween]

Also, my french press glass broke recently and I'm devastated!! Stupid cats knocked it over. The only other coffee maker I have is an Italian Stovetop and that just burns the coffee making it taste so strong and gross. I may just buy cheap filters and do that thing where you put the filter directly over the coffee mug. Won't brew for quite as long but it will beat the alternative.

[decadent]

If i drink it it needs to be an espresso. I hate watery coffee. I need it to have an intensive taste. I have a Nespresso-machine now, before that i rarely drank coffee. My favorite - Ristretto. And i dont drink it for the caffeine - I just like the taste amd smell.

[millionmilesaway]

I'm a tea guy. Lately I've been drinking Prince of Peace's Oolong. I'm a fan of "earthy" tasting teas, so this is right up my alley, plus it makes me feel great! The caffeine helps, I'm sure. I'll drink some non-caffeinated green tea in the afternoon just to stay warm in my cold office.

I've never gotten into coffee. I love the smell of coffee and even stuff like coffee flavored ice cream or candy, but the taste of coffee has always turned me off.

I stopped drinking soda a few years ago, with a relapse last summer. Shit is addicting.

Energy drinks make me jittery and have to constantly pee. No thanks.

Pu'erh teas are great for earthy flavors, I've had the original flavor from David's tea http://www.davidstea.com/organic-golden-pu-erh?&TF=6F41AF1F663F&DEID=
they also have a pu'erh blended with coffee beans.

[the duder]

I drink about 32/oz per day. Kinda thinking of cutting back.

[Halo Infinity]

@Space Suicide (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=532) - I've been a Monster Energy person for quite some time, but I just tried NOS Energy Drink and it actually tasted a lot better than I remembered it. It also really hit the spot too. Thanks for your indirect reminder on your Instagram. :)

As for Monster Energy, I've been mostly trying the Zero Ultra and Ultra Blue. As for the coffee flavors, my favorites are Kona Cappuccino and Vanilla Light. However, I also have a hard time finding those sometimes. I also miss Baller's Blend.

[Space Suicide]

@Space Suicide (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=532) - I've been a Monster Energy person for quite some time, but I just tried NOS Energy Drink and it actually tasted a lot better than I remembered it. It also really hit the spot too. Thanks for your indirect reminder on your Instagram. :)

As for Monster Energy, I've been mostly trying the Zero Ultra and Ultra Blue. As for the coffee flavors, my favorites are Kona Cappuccino and Vanilla Light. However, I also have a hard time finding those sometimes. I also miss Baller's Blend.

Glad to be of service. :p

NOS rules.

[Boots]

I mostly buy Starbucks vanilla flavored energy drinks. They have a lot of sodium and they keep me up all night, but I don't care.

[Halo Infinity]

I just recently discovered XYIENCE, and it's been my latest favorite enegry drink so far. I also hope it lasts, especially since it tastes great at zero calories, not to mention seeing energy drinks that aren't Red Bull or Monster come and go so fast. I'd highly recommend XYIENCE to anybody else that likes Monster Energy, especially the Zero Ultra varieties. So far, my favorite flavors from XYIENCE have been Frostberry Blast and Cherry Lime. Perhaps I also got lucky around my way at my local grocery store too, because it also seems to be cheaper than both Monster Energy and NOS Energy Drink, but just by a little bit, which made it even more than worth the price as far as energy drinks go.

http://www.xyience.com/

https://www.facebook.com/xyience/

https://twitter.com/XYIENCE

https://www.instagram.com/xyience/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQq0rwkifs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-6ILxrCLU

[Mantra]

So what's everyone's current coffee intake rate these days?

I'm currently hovering around a pot a day, give or take a cup or so.

Been trying to cut back, but I have precious few addictions in my life at this point, so it seems unfair that I should have to hold back on this one.

[kel]

i found citrus (energy) vitamin waters for $.94! i'm used to spending close to two bucks for them.

[Mantra]

So I have a good friend who is spending a semester teaching in Indonesia, and she just mailed me a gift package that includes Kopi Luwak coffee. I've never heard of this before, but apparently it's coffee made by having Asian palm civets eat, digest, and shit out coffee cherries. And apparently this is some gourmet coffee shit?

I have to admit I'm a little stunned by this. Is this a well-known thing and I've just been out of the loop?

I don't know how I feel about drinking brewed shit.

[playwithfire]

It's a thing! You should drink it! It'll be fine! Their digestion breaks down the acidity or something and civets are adorable. Just like, make it in a nice way and don't throw it in your coffee maker cuz that'll be a waste. Also the coffee is processed after. Only real concern should be like animal cruelty and it's too late for that now/that depends on the manufacturer afaict

[Mantra]

It's a thing! You should drink it! It'll be fine! Their digestion breaks down the acidity or something and civets are adorable. Just like, make it in a nice way and don't throw it in your coffee maker cuz that'll be a waste. Also the coffee is processed after. Only real concern should be like animal cruelty and it's too late for that now/that depends on the manufacturer afaict

But...Are you POSITIVE about this? Have you actually tried it yourself? Did it taste normal? No poop taste at all? Cause I'm scared about possibly getting hit with a poop taste. Also of getting poisoned or something.

I have very little experience when it comes to eating things that have been defecated by animals.

[theimage13]

I miss caffeine.

I mean, I don't miss the chemistry of it - caffeine never made me feel more awake or anything like that, but it sure did screw with my heart. I just miss being able to order any sort of coffee drink I wanted, instead of having to scour for some plain-ass decaf option. (Don't get me wrong, I actually do like black coffee - but sometimes I want something fancy and it's not an option.)

[theimage13]

So I have a good friend who is spending a semester teaching in Indonesia, and she just mailed me a gift package that includes Kopi Luwak coffee. I've never heard of this before, but apparently it's coffee made by having Asian palm civets eat, digest, and shit out coffee cherries. And apparently this is some gourmet coffee shit?

I have to admit I'm a little stunned by this. Is this a well-known thing and I've just been out of the loop?

I don't know how I feel about drinking brewed shit.

Plus side: it does taste great, which I found out before I knew the following.....

Down site: it sucks big time from an animal rights perspective. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160429-kopi-luwak-captive-civet-coffee-Indonesia/

[Mantra]

Plus side: it does taste great, which I found out before I knew the following.....

Down site: it sucks big time from an animal rights perspective. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160429-kopi-luwak-captive-civet-coffee-Indonesia/

Aw man, what the hell. Poor civets :(

How did this practice ever develop in the first place?! Luxury coffee made from Civet poop? Who came up with this insanity?

[theimage13]

Aw man, what the hell. Poor civets :(

How did this practice ever develop in the first place?! Luxury coffee made from Civet poop? Who came up with this insanity?

In a nutshell: the 18th century equivalent of dumpster diving. Farmers wanted a taste of the crops they were harvesting for the Dutch, and they realized that civets were basically shitting out the beans whole. So they took them home and roasted them.

[Mantra]

In a nutshell: the 18th century equivalent of dumpster diving. Farmers wanted a taste of the crops they were harvesting for the Dutch, and they realized that civets were basically shitting out the beans whole. So they took them home and roasted them.

Hmm, yeah you're right, wikipedia says...


In the early 18th century the Dutch established the cash-crop coffee plantations in their colony in the Dutch East Indies islands of Java and Sumatra, including Arabica coffee introduced from Yemen. During the era of Cultuurstelsel (1830–70), the Dutch prohibited the native farmers and plantation workers from picking coffee fruits for their own use. Still, the native farmers wanted to have a taste of the famed coffee beverage. Soon, the natives learned that certain species of musang or luwak (Asian palm civet) consumed the coffee fruits, yet they left the coffee seeds undigested in their droppings. The natives collected these luwaks' coffee seed droppings, then cleaned, roasted and ground them to make their own coffee beverage.[9] The fame of aromatic civet coffee spread from locals to Dutch plantation owners and soon became their favourite, yet because of its rarity and unusual process, the civet coffee was expensive even during the colonial era.

[Mantra]

tried it this morning. not bad!

didn't 100% knock my socks off, but it was nice I guess. still feel weird about the production process, but whatever.

[Amaro]

One time I mixed caffeine (a venti tea from Starbucks) and kratom (roughly 5 grams or more) and it messed me way up.

[NotoriousTIMP]

One time I mixed caffeine (a venti tea from Starbucks) and kratom (roughly 5 grams or more) and it messed me way up.

In a good way or a bad way?

[Amaro]

In a good way or a bad way?

Very bad! Just felt overly jacked to the point of being sick. Nearly threw up. I took a Dramamine, way too late.

[Jon]

I have fallen in love with these:

https://i.imgur.com/KuPaFbi.jpg