Pink Floyd

[onthewall2983]

Anyone here buy the Immersion sets yet?

[sheepdean]

DSotM immersion is amazing, but everyone is saying not to buy WYWH because the BD is faulty and is full of pops and clicks. My preorder for The Wall is already in though.

[botley]

For anyone completely confused by what we're talking about: http://www.whypinkfloyd.com

Problems with the Wish You Were Here Immersion Edition are not limited to faulty Blu-ray Discs (although last I heard, those are being recalled and replaced by the record company)... for one thing, they didn't properly synchronize the screen films, and also I heard that part of the Quad mix was edited out so it would match with the stereo/5.1 mixes.

I was totally happy with the Dark Side Immersion box set, but so far I've only plumped for the 2-disc Wish You Were Here Experience CDs and I'll probably get the SACD version too. Such is life as a Floyd nut.

[onthewall2983]

Been hearing that, too. A lot of packaging problems, due to not putting discs in cases (WTF?), have sprang up since the first one came out.

[sheepdean]

I kinda wish they were packaging The Wall with the film on BD at long last, my DVD is getting a bit tired

[onthewall2983]

There's a simple answer to that. EMI doesn't own the rights to the film, Sony does (the home video rights anyway). I suspect one will be coming soon once Roger's tour is done and dusted and he gets to work on the Blu-Ray for the tour, and maybe just maybe finishes his album he's been working on now for almost 12 years.

[botley]

There's also the possibility of the album being remixed for 5.1 sometime in the future (it's won't be in next year's Immersion box).

Frankly I'm way more excited to hear additional unreleased early stuff. The best parts of the whole reissue campaign so far were the outtakes from WYWH and DSotM... I was dreaming about the "Household Objects" tracks since I was a kid and they are nothing like what I expected.

[onthewall2983]

Alan Styles, the subject of "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast", passed away at 75 yesterday :(

[JamesKKelly]

After waiting a few years for a price reduction I finally caved in and bought a like new used copy of pulse on DVD for €10. I've heard the stuff live but never viewed it because every time I saw it in store or online it was massively overpriced. I hear mixed reports on the visual quality and some fans are desperately waiting for a blu-ray. Anyone know if the footage is decent for a SD DVD?

[sheepdean]

After waiting a few years for a price reduction I finally caved in and bought a like new used copy of pulse on DVD for €10. I've heard the stuff live but never viewed it because every time I saw it in store or online it was massively overpriced. I hear mixed reports on the visual quality and some fans are desperately waiting for a blu-ray. Anyone know if the footage is decent for a SD DVD?
It's good DVD footage, although musically I feel it's lacking compared to many of the other recordings out there, both bootleg and official

[JamesKKelly]

It's good DVD footage, although musically I feel it's lacking compared to many of the other recordings out there, both bootleg and official

Cheers, at least the entirety of The Dark Side of The Moon is on there which I'm looking forward to.

[onthewall2983]

From Nick Mason's Facebook today


‎"Amongst the many projects James Guthrie is working on are a blu-ray version of The Wall Movie and a 5.1 Mix. Unfortunately that’s not all on his job list , and no matter how often we whip him, he doesn’t seem to be able to work any faster....And in this instance he has to work with tapes that need a lot of TLC as they have deteriorated quite badly. A 5.1 Mix is a high priority but I'm afraid it just will take quite a while to complete and we felt we really wanted to get these sets of physical records out while our audience still have equipment capable of playing these things – And while I’m still capable of talking about them rather than just dribbling...."

[botley]

After waiting a few years for a price reduction I finally caved in and bought a like new used copy of pulse on DVD for €10. I've heard the stuff live but never viewed it because every time I saw it in store or online it was massively overpriced. I hear mixed reports on the visual quality and some fans are desperately waiting for a blu-ray. Anyone know if the footage is decent for a SD DVD?
Personally, I think it looks kind of bad, but they were only working with standard-definition source material (the concert was shot on Betamax videotape). A Blu-ray upgrade will do nothing to help that problem.

Live At Pompeii, on the other hand, was shot on film. If the director Adrian Maben finds more of the original negatives then a Blu-ray upgrade would definitely be a possibility, as discussed in this massive new article (http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/albums/pink-floyds-wish-you-were-here-sacd-review-and-interviews-including-james-gu.html) on the Wish You Were Here SACD. It also mentions that a 5.1 mix of The Wall is destined for SACD, if James Guthrie can restore the multitrack tapes.

[onthewall2983]

The real draw of a Pulse Blu-Ray would be the audio, anyway. A mix in DTS 5.1 or even 7.1 would be quite good for it I think. And it wouldn't be the first time this happened. Dire Straits' Alchemy was released on BR a few years ago, and I think that was shot on videotape as well.

[botley]

The real draw of a Pulse Blu-Ray would be the audio, anyway. A mix in DTS 5.1 or even 7.1 would be quite good for it I think. And it wouldn't be the first time this happened. Dire Straits' Alchemy was released on BR a few years ago, and I think that was shot on videotape as well.
The problem is that the industry knows consumers expect HD video on Blu-rays. They allude to this in the article I linked, when talking about why audiophiles haven't embraced Blu-ray as a music format. No one seems to care that any Blu-ray player has the capability to reproduce the best digital audio quality on the market (even above SACD in my opinion). The clock is running out on physical digital-based formats, too, which Nick Mason and EMI are obviously conscious of.

[onthewall2983]

A Blu-ray of Pompeii would be great if they got rid of all that animated director's cut garbage. But like James says in the article, don't hold your breath for one. Universal, not Pink Floyd, own it, so maybe something could happen a bit sooner since EMI just made a huge deal with them.

[BRoswell]

I was a casual Floyd fan up until last year. That's when I decided to sit and listen to all of their output from the 70s. I couldn't believe what I had been missing out on all these years. I was amazed at how the music made me feel as a whole and just how well done their albums were.

I've yet to listen to their albums from the 60s, 80s and 90s (except for Pulse) aside from some random tracks, but I can't imagine them living up to what they made in the 70s.

My favorites in order thus far:

The Dark Side Of The Moon/The Wall
Wish You Were Here
Meddle
Animals
Atom Heart Mother
Obscured By Clouds

[botley]

I've yet to listen to their albums from the 60s, 80s and 90s (except for Pulse) aside from some random tracks, but I can't imagine them living up to what they made in the 70s.
They don't, although some people like the Syd-era albums (I think they're charming but nowhere near as good as the 1970s era — I've never encountered another band so capable of consistently running on all cylinders for a whole decade like that).

[R37R0]

its definitely worth looking up some of the 60s and 70s bootlegs IMHO, there is a healthy pink floyd bootleg community on the internet and collectors generally convert them to high resolution FLAC from vinyl.
One that I especially enjoy is 'Old Symphonies' which i have been playing a lot recently on my mp3 player.

[Scope]

The Dark Side of the Moon experience addition sounds much clearer and there's more depth to it than the original. The bonus disk is a bit lacking though - the live performance from 1973 isn't anything special!
The Wish You Were Here experience addition is the opposite - didn't hear much difference between the orginal and the experience addition, but the bonus disk is great!
Pulse is awesome, too. Just wish I had the money to spare for the immersion addition, all the artwork looks amazing.

[onthewall2983]

Wish You Were Here is not just my favorite Floyd album, but my number one above all else. This was the album that single-handedly opened my eyes and ears to Roger's genius, extended pieces connected by a (in this case, highly emotional) lyrical narrative, and the musical synergy Gilmour and Wright shared instrumentally (later hearing Dark Side Of The Moon I heard that same synergy in their voices). I was 13 when I heard it, and I think that's the right time for anybody to discover their music. It was definitely grown-up music, but the part that is still a child could get so easily lost in it, if you had the patience. I'm listening to it again, and it's not hard for me to re-connect with the first time I listened to it.

[Cameron]

Got the Immersion Dark Side, but haven't watched all the footage. I have the Experience WYWH, gotta find the Immersion stuff

[sheepdean]

Anyone know if the mix of Shine on You crazy Diamond that's on Echoes is meant to reflect the original idea for it to be one track (hindered because a side of an LP is selfishly too short), or if PF just felt like smushing it together?

[botley]

^It was originally going to be one long track, yes. The live version on last year's expanded Wish You Were Here sets reflects this.

Amazon also has previews up (http://www.amazon.com/The-Wall-2011-Remaster/dp/B00708LBFS/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328073068&sr=301-2) for all of the tracks on the Experience Version of The Wall.

People online have been slagging this set off for not containing hi-res or 5.1 mixes. Well, they must not be aware that the Immersion version has sixty-four demo tracks. Only a fraction of these demos have ever been bootlegged before.

"The Doctor" appears similar to the finished version of "Comfortably Numb" but with a markedly different approach to the verse lyrics.

"Sexual Revolution" is vastly different from the final version on Roger's Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking LP. No comparable demo version of this song exists on bootleg.

"Teacher, Teacher" is an unheard lyric and its arrangement incorporates a melody that would be rewritten into "The Hero's Return" on The Final Cut.

This version of "Outside the Wall" is different from every other version in both lyric and arrangement; in fact the use of harmonium creates a nice thematic bridge into the start of "The Post War Dream" on The Final Cut (and it appears to actually segue into "It's Never Too Late", which bears more than a little resemblance to the latter track).

There's also a version of "Young Lust" on Amazon that contains the totally different early lyrics concerning Young Pink's adventures in trying to buy pornography. This has never before been heard in full.

[onthewall2983]

It was almost going to be one side of what became Wish You Were Here, along with "Raving And Drooling" and "You Gotta Be Crazy" on the flip side. Hearing the versions of those songs on the recent special edition made me glad they were re-tooled for Animals, because as they were in '74 and '75 they certainly weren't as coherent as the final product ended up being.

In answer to your question, they smushed it together I think because they wanted their cake and to eat it too, because "Echoes" is edited down 6 minutes in length and "Marooned" is only 2 minutes long (the real WTF of that particular compilation for me). Otherwise I think Echoes is perfect for people just getting into the band.

[sheepdean]

I know I'll seem like a nerd for this, but I won't ever listen to album previews, to me the album itself is what I want, and to hear a 192kbps snippet just doesn't seem worth it.

[onthewall2983]

I admire your restraint.

[frankie teardrop]

Anyone know if the mix of Shine on You crazy Diamond that's on Echoes is meant to reflect the original idea for it to be one track (hindered because a side of an LP is selfishly too short), or if PF just felt like smushing it together?

selfishly too short? unrelated, but just curious as to how required audio fidelity for LPs is considered selfish!

[onthewall2983]

The whole thing is 26 minutes, and probably would have been pretty easy to fit on. The idea was to bookend the album with the song, like the heartbeat that opens and ends Dark Side. This would re-occur in their next two albums, ending as it began.

[botley]

Once you go above 24 minutes, you lose audio fidelity. Gilmour wanted the whole thing on one side (with "Raving & Drooling"/"You've Got to Be Crazy" on the other) and Waters successfully lobbied for the Wish You Were Here LP as we know and love it today.

[frankie teardrop]

nah, that's the thing. while a vinyl CAN fit up 29 minutes on one side under some extreme circumstances, it's far from ideal. the longer a side is, the more the audio quality suffers due to cut bass frequencies and lower volumes, as there is only so much groove space to dedicate to a full listening experience. while it's realistic that 'shine on' could probably fit on one side, the dip in sound quality makes for a tremendously good reason to break it up. one can assume, at that point in time, that floyd and their crew were quite good in the studio, so it seems foolish to cram a magnum opus on one side of a record only to have it sound so trebely and thin.

see also "to be played at maximum volume'--- not a saying coined for kicks. it meant that the lp side was pushing the limits and volume was cut to compensate for the longer running time.



edit: JINX!

[botley]

Apparently, the demos from The Wall Experience edition are coming out on a stand-alone vinyl LP set later this year called The Workshop Tapes, sort of like how The Doors are issuing their outtakes from the LA Woman deluxe edition on their own.

[onthewall2983]

Awesome. I still wish they'd put a studio version of "What Shall We Do Now?" on it, but after listening to the snippets of demos I'm now more interested in it.

Listening to the Oakland show from the Animals tour right now. Besides the prick who set fireworks off next to whoever was recording during "Wish You Were Here", it's an utterly awesome boot.

[onthewall2983]

http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/images/stories/2012/hdool1.jpg
http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/images/stories/2012/hdool2.jpg
http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/images/stories/2012/hdool3.jpg

Included on the Immersion Wall DVD is a brief video from the Earls Court shows of "The Happiest Days Of Our Lives", of which these three stills are from. Don't know about you guys, but I'm now crossing every extremity imaginable that the whole film sees some kind of proper release in my lifetime

[fillow]

Holy shit, is it Roger Waters who is sitting on this footage?

[Jinsai]

Once you go above 24 minutes, you lose audio fidelity.


I'd heard the drop in quality starts at 22 minutes.

[onthewall2983]

Holy shit, is it Roger Waters who is sitting on this footage?

I'm guessing that. He's been using footage of "Mother" presumably from this show on his latest tours. As far as I know, one show in New York and one in London were filmed on videotape in 1980, and Alan Parker filmed an additional six shows in London in '81. These were done for the initial plans of the movie, in which live footage would have been blended in with the rest of the material. Those shoots apparently were a bust, with Alan calling them "six blown opportunities".

But Roger said in 2009 he'd found a bunch of footage and was editing it together, so it could ostensibly be stuff that was filmed in '81, since the New York and London stuff has been floating around on bootlegs for quite awhile now.

[fillow]

Yeah, I've read the story that the original footage was planned for the movie but got shelved, and also watched a DVD from Earls Court shows that is definitely a proshot/sbd, but looks like it was transfered from 28th generation VHS tape. Just wasn't sure about current status of it, now when Roger being all into The Wall again

[onthewall2983]

In the December 2009 Issue of Mojo, Roger Waters revealed that he had 'discovered a whole load of new footage of The Wall shows' and that he was busy 'editing it'. He explained that he assumed the cameramen decided to shoot more than they were asked to as they had the cameras and 'nobody [seemed] bothered'. It is presumed that this footage is 35mm film.

I found this on Wikipedia, and is what I'm going by that what he might have is a complete version of the show, shot on 35mm. I'm guessing that any major kind of restoration is taking a backseat to Roger's current projects (which also includes work on a concert film of his Dark Side Of The Moon tour). But if that's true, and the restoration goes off without a hitch, it'll make for an awesome Blu-Ray experience.

[botley]

The final Experience and Immersion sets are now out worldwide. What does everybody think of them? I opted for the iTunes Experience download — it comes with that really good 50-minute documentary Behind the Wall and eight tracks from Is There Anybody Out There? plus everything from the physical Experience version including all artwork. Pretty good value for $30 even though I already had most of it in other formats.

[onthewall2983]

Just found out about this, but VH1 Classic is airing a new documentary from Eagle Rock productions tomorrow at 7:30, The Story Of Wish You Were Here. Details here (http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/vh1-classic-in-usa-holding-pink-floyd-day-with-wywh-pre.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=twitterfeed&utm_content=FaceBook).

[PooPooMeowChow]

I want Experience/Immersion versions of Animals. I don't care what the extras are.

[onthewall2983]

I think the Immersion sets are just limited to the three released so far, but I believe there might be more special editions in the pipeline. What I'd love from that period is a live album from the '77 tour. Animals and Wish You Were Here performed in their entirety.

[PooPooMeowChow]

I'd love any quality recording from that tour.

[onthewall2983]

The documentary was excellent. Highlights for me was Roger talking about his dissatisfaction with Roy Harper's vocal on "Have A Cigar" and engineer Brian Humphries talking about Rick's contribution to the finale of "Shine On".

[thevoid99]

I just saw that doc. I love it. Notably the stuff about the artwork and the fragments of Syd Barrett's final recording which are quite beautiful. That pic of him still haunts me to this day of what he's become. Wish You Were Here is still my 2nd favorite Floyd album behind The Wall.

[onthewall2983]

I don't care what people say, and as hard as I've tried to agree with them I can't. The Division Bell ​is a solid fucking record.

[GibbonBlack]

I saw Gilmour play 'Wish You Were Here' on Sunday. Then he did guitar for 'Whiter Shade Of Pale' with Gary Brooker. It was brilliant!

[onthewall2983]

Really good interview. Mostly covers ground Floyd-heads know, but some of the questions at the end are interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBLh-RkbpUc

[onthewall2983]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/553637_10150639686533091_34703818090_9273548_19104 92267_n.jpg


Eagle Rock Entertainment is proud to announce the simultaneous release on June 26 of Pink Floyd The Story Of Wish You Were Here on DVD and Blu-ray. This is the authorized story of the album made with the full involvement and approval of the members of Pink Floyd.

Wish You Were Here, released in September 1975, was the follow up album to the globally successful The Dark Side Of The Moon and is cited by many fans, as well as band members Richard Wright and David Gilmour, as their favorite Pink Floyd album. On release it went straight to Number One in both the UK and the US and topped the charts in many other countries around the world. This program tells the story of the making of this landmark release through new interviews with Roger Waters, David Gilmour and Nick Mason and archive interviews with the late Richard Wright. Also featured are sleeve designer Storm Thorgerson, guest vocalist Roy Harper, front cover "burning man" Ronnie Rondell and others involved in the creation of the album. In addition, original recording engineer Brian Humphries revisits the master tapes at Abbey Road Studios to illustrate aspects of the songs' construction.

The band members discuss the album's themes of absence, the greed of the music business and former band member Syd Barrett, who is famously celebrated in "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which both opens and closes the album. The program also covers the unexpected visit Barrett paid to Abbey Road during the recording, the difficulties of the early recording sessions and how the decision to split "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" into two sections was the catalyst for the album's successful completion.

The DVD and Blu-ray releases contain additional bonus material not featured in the TV broadcast version, including further interviews with Roger Waters, David Gilmour and Nick Mason plus Roger Waters and David Gilmour performing excerpts from the Wish You Were Here album.

[botley]

James Guthrie has released a short film detailing his work in London with the band and at Lake Tahoe in his beautiful studio Das Boot remixing Wish You Were Here into 5.1 surround sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgs-F1KyWg

What's really moving to me is that this is probably one of the last performances Rick ever recorded.

[onthewall2983]

It was probably quite a few years before I ever even noticed that piano part in the original recording. It's not exactly buried in the stereo mix, but hearing it was a bit of a revelation. Little things like that, discovered years later were reaffirmations of my faith in how blown away I was originally by the music.

I really hope this is one of the extras on the DVD/Blu-ray of that documentary mentioned above.

[Stereo75]

If anyone is going to any of the Wall shows between May the 6th & the 30th, could you please take a pic of the merch booth & post it here. I'm currently undecided between going to the second show or buying some merch. The new 'Trust Us' logo is pretty plain & boring, from what I've seen on RW's official store. I'm just glad that a buddy of mine picked up a hoody for me from the 2010 Dallas show - the new hoody sucks big donkey balls.:mad:

[Cameron]

That Wall footage has been online for years. The video quality is grainy, but the sound's not too bad. Unless you're a major audiophile.

[onthewall2983]

Roger is on 60 Minutes ​this Sunday.

[Senateguard33]

I think the Wall is their best album, but I like the non-70s albums better overall.

Here's how I would rank their material. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this...lol.

1. The Wall
2. The Division Bell
3. A Momentary Lapse of Reason
4. The Piper At The Gates of Dawn
5. Ummagumma
6. Wish You Were Here
7. The Final Cut
8. Dark Side of the Moon
9. More
10. A Saucerful of Secrets
11. Atom Heart Mother
12. Meddle
13. Obscured by Clouds
14. Animals

[fillow]

Glad to see some appreciation to Gilmor albums. I'd swap Animals and The Final Cut though. The latter is pretty much unlistenable to me.

[onthewall2983]

The 60 Minutes piece was pretty good, I would have thought the interview would have delved more into the politics of this show but still an okay bit. It's interesting that Roger went to such lengths to make sure every note was right and faithful to the original recording.

[allegro]

Glad to see some appreciation to Gilmor albums. I'd swap Animals and The Final Cut though. The latter is pretty much unlistenable to me.

Animals is my No. 1
My No. 2 is Wish You Were Here
No 3 is Dark Side of the Moon

[Amaro]

Damnit. I just bought Animals for a dollar in the bargain section and forgot why they're bargains at this particular record store: they're scratched to shit.

[onthewall2983]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1enfo8zn3_g

[onthewall2983]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgSGtVVMr20

[Stereo75]

I have a 14 page .pdf from The 2012 Wall tour detailing everything from the Stuka plane to what RW needs for furniture in his dressing room. A very interesting read. Send a pm with your e-mail if you would like a copy.

[Highly Psychological]

Im going to try and go see Roger next year he is playing London Wembley stadium in September 2013, hopefully Dave an Nick will join him again, probably be last Wall tour!
Saw Pink Floyd at the reunion show in 2005, was lovely but set was very short, and there were far too many people there, the event itself was atrocious, Pink Floyd were the only highlight, 250.000 people were there we were all crammed into Hyde Park like cattle, most were there to see PF, from all around the world with Dark Side of the Moon tattoos, paying thousands from scalpers to get into the park, so I was about 2 football pitches away from the stage, and they all looked like dots, i could see the trippy films being played by Storm quite well, erm...at least i was there?????? i have to see this show...
If this group did decide to do a final reunion it would break every box office record known to man. Sigh.

[fillow]

A couple of days ago I rediscovered Early Singles compilation, after a few years of ignoring it. Turns out this compilation is bloody awesome.

[onthewall2983]

http://store.acousticsounds.com/Newsletter/011713/Amused.jpg

[Jinsai]

That's cool that they're repressing it, but Amused to Death hasn't aged well for me at all. I remember when I first heard it I liked it enough, but now it's just seemingly overloaded with melodrama and embarrassing theatrics.

[onthewall2983]

Really? That's a better argument for his two previous albums, but ATD ​is still lyrically pretty relevant. Plus it's not as dated by the technology used.

[fillow]

I wonder if they're planning to re-release/expand ofter PF albums akin to recent Wall, WYWH and DSOM reissues. Any hints?

[onthewall2983]

Only that Mason has said he'd like to see a similar reissue of the Syd Barrett material, that in digging through the archives they found stuff dating way before "Arnold Layne".

[fillow]

Is Australian Pink Floyd Show worth going to?

[Stereo75]

I've heard from friends that the APFS is worth going to see, but steer clear of PFX (The Pink Floyd Experience). It is incredibly boring.

[kenthebear]

Yeah Aussie Floyd is excellent. They're not cheap for a tribute band (think I paid about £36 for their last tour) but they put on a good show.

[onthewall2983]

http://darkside40.pinkfloyd.com/

You can listen to the real thing for free (and legally) here :)

[steelnails95]

Anybody know where you can find The Wall, Movie audio version? I love some of the Movie versions better than the album versions...

[kenthebear]

Anybody know where you can find The Wall, Movie audio version? I love some of the Movie versions better than the album versions...

There's a bootleg called Every Brick in The Wall, which is pretty much that.

Alternately, rip it yourself!

[onthewall2983]

RIP Storm Thorgerson (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22210378)

[Highly Psychological]

Storm Thorgerson = Best Graphic designer in Rock History. Other pieces of artwork i like more, but i cant think of anyone else who produced as many iconic sleeves as him. Always thought this one for prog rock band Quatermass was his most epic.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-N1--M677veo/URIt0MlcI6I/AAAAAAAAAGc/z05XDZqJp-I/s1600/Quatermass.jpg

[Fixer808]

I grew up listening to Wish You Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon, and I can't think of either of those albums without the cover art leaping into my mind. He will be missed...

[PhoenixML]

27 years later (I'm 27), I am only now today discovering the 8-track version of Pigs on the Wings!!??? The one where both parts are merge on a single track with a solo in the middle, not played by David Gilmour?

MIND BLOWN!!

[thevoid99]

It's played by Snowy White who was an auxilary guitarist for Floyd during the 1977 In the Flesh Tour and the first leg of the The Wall Tour in 1980. He's currently playing for Roger Waters.

[onthewall2983]

Live At Pompeii remastered in 2K with improved sound, the new print makes it's debut in Paris this Friday. (http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/pink-floyd-live-at-pompeii-remastered-paris-screening.html)

[thevoid99]

Oh, I hope there's a good DVD/Blu-Ray release coming with new input from the band.

[onthewall2983]

That's my guess. The "improved sound" part leads me to believe Maben was allowed to use the multi-track recordings of the film, which Pink Floyd owns. I hope there's more interviews and footage of the band overdubbing and eating pie (some without crust!).

[Kodiak33]

I would like a Blu-ray of Pulse.

[fillow]

Pulse on Blu-ray doesn't make sense due to video most probably not filmed in HD in the first place.

I, however, would like a dvd of Delicate Sound of Thunder.

[onthewall2983]

A Blu-ray of Delicate Sound of Thunder would be more likely because it was shot on film not VHS (like Pulse). But that in and of itself is up to debate because the band wasn't crazy about that or the live album.

But I'll take Pompeii over Pulse ​anyday.

[thevoid99]

A Blu-ray of Delicate Sound of Thunder would be more likely because it was shot on film not VHS (like Pulse). But that in and of itself is up to debate because the band wasn't crazy about that or the live album.

But I'll take Pompeii over Pulse ​anyday.

Same here though I wouldn't mind a new DVD of Pulse since I do feel that the set lists and performances were much better than on Delicate Sound of Thunder. Plus, that concert didn't have the mullet guy on guitar and sax.

[onthewall2983]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/397841_516819578377067_1738921643_n.jpg

"storm was laid to rest earlier this week. music and art brought us together and was one of the unsaid bonds between our friendship and work together.


you had quite an adventurous and rich life storm and we are all the better for having had your art in ours. rest in peace my friend. i will miss you."

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBpi7Zs43Vc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHhW_eu4PQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yGepLq77Oc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH9heCbAyXM

[onthewall2983]

Covers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTtcYfvuO4I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5NK2kdi-3c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYAl_cLG2qQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQGgCyKe_qY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtth2ctBD4

[fortysixand2]

Speaking of covers.. One of my favs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRxom03uVgE

[onthewall2983]

http://soundcloud.com/peterkruder/peter-kruder-pink-floyd-mix

[Maximilian]

Found this at Goodwill on VHS the other day, figured it was worth a looksy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gilmour_Live_1984

I see there it was never released on VHS in the UK and it was never released on DVD in the US. Weird.

[Findus]

One of my favorite covers.


http://youtu.be/VVmuAv_VZs4

[onthewall2983]

The YouTube version has the audio cut for stupid reasons.


http://vimeo.com/41085122

[onthewall2983]

Just found this yesterday on YouTube. It's a promo video for David Gilmour's first solo album, that's only been previously available in rather poor quality. His brother mark is playing rhythm guitar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxvJ9mR-Rp8

[botley]

Just found this yesterday on YouTube. It's a promo video for David Gilmour's first solo album, that's only been previously available in rather poor quality. His brother mark is playing rhythm guitar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxvJ9mR-Rp8
Nice visual upgrade; but I thought they played "Mihalis" too?

[onthewall2983]

They did, but isn't a part of this I guess.

[onthewall2983]

The new 2K version of Pompeii will be screened at a Montreal Festival starting tomorrow, with Director Adrian Maben presenting it and probably fielding questions. (http://nouveaucinema.ca/en/2013/fiches/longs-metrages/9198/) Furthermore, here's a statement from the man responsible for the 2K master (http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/restored-pink-floyd-at-pompeii-and-new-adrian-maben-floyd-documentary-at-montreal-film-festival.330776/) about the work that went into this, and the discovery of nearly an hour's worth of unseen footage only recently recovered from Maben himself while cleaning out his apartment.

[onthewall2983]

Recent hubbub is that David is working on the follow-up record to On An Island. Graham Nash said that he and David Crosby are providing back-up vocals like they did for the title track, and for several dates on David's European and U.S. tours in 2006. That awesomeness aside, I'm looking forward to wearing out DG's next album. Would be funny if both his and Roger's next solo album both came out next year, considering it would be 30 years after About Face and Pros & Cons Of Hitch-Hiking.

[thevoid99]

If that is true and he and Roger would both put out solo records at the same time. Would they have a bet over who gets the higher chart placement in the U.K. and for how much?

[henryeatscereal]

Wish someone would remaster "Music for the Body", sometimes i think nobody cares for that album (not even Waters...)

[thevoid99]

Wish someone would remaster "Music for the Body", sometimes i think nobody cares for that album (not even Waters...)

I care. I think it's time for a remastering job. In fact, there should be another box set to collect all of the solo work from the members of Floyd including some unreleased tracks and such w/ liner notes from the surviving members of the band.

[onthewall2983]

If that is true and he and Roger would both put out solo records at the same time. Would they have a bet over who gets the higher chart placement in the U.K. and for how much?

I'd think Roger would get a bump in sales because of the exposure he's had with the Wall tours, both on stage and in the media. On An Island sold quite well, partly on the basis that it came less than a year after Live8.

[henryeatscereal]

I care. I think it's time for a remastering job. In fact, there should be another box set to collect all of the solo work from the members of Floyd including some unreleased tracks and such w/ liner notes from the surviving members of the band.
That's a great idea! I believe even "David Gilmour" and "About to face" are out of print, i would be great to see these albums in a remastered form too!

[botley]

I bought both of those CDs when they were remastered by James Guthrie in 2006. The sound quality is okay but I never play them, Gilmour's solo music is not really my cup of tea these days. If you're really that interested in having them I may be able to part with both, make an offer over PM.

Great news re: recent Pompeii discoveries! Let's hope it amounts to a Blu-ray release.

[fillow]

Still waiting for Roger's DSOTM tour dvd. Any updates on that recently?

[onthewall2983]

I believe it's still in the cards. I am purely guessing that he or Sony wants to release them in tandem with each other, but probably not right around when his solo album comes out as I'm sure they don't want to flood the market with 3 new Roger Waters releases all at once.

[onthewall2983]

http://store.acousticsounds.com/Newsletter/011713/Amused.jpg

A new update on this indicates this version will be released later in the year, in not just SACD stereo but 5.1 as well, with some new graphics and content yet to be announced.

[thevoid99]

Of the solo albums Roger made, that one is his best with The Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking being 2nd. I hope he can remaster that one as well.

[onthewall2983]

That and The Final Cut would sound great in 5.1, but the holy grail would be if they did new surround mixes of Atom Heart Mother and Meddle. Animals and the two Gilmour-Floyd records would be great too, of course.

[henryeatscereal]

I even like "Radio kaos", yet "Amused" is the best one, do you guys have noticed that "Amused to Death" and "A momentary Lapse of reason" are VERY similar? (themes, music, guitars...)

[botley]

That's kinda the way EVERYTHING sounded in 1987.

[onthewall2983]

The Division Bell to be re-released as 7-disc (mostly vinyl, with a Blu-ray featuring new 5.1 mix) (http://prog.teamrock.com/news/2014-05-20/pink-floyd-reveal-the-division-bell-box-set) box set

http://files.teamrock.com/images/696d616765-537b4a332b6f46.63947826/640x360.jpg

No unreleased material or other videos, but I'm getting it. This features Storm's best artwork in my opinion and it'll be nice to have a full-sized version of it. Not to mention a surround sound version of it.

[henryeatscereal]

Not sure if the 5.1 mix was necessary but yeah, for the art alone is worth it...

I would prefer an "Ummagumma experience edition" but i don't think it will happen

[sheepdean]

Pretty fucking expensive for even the standard set imo though, does Gilmour really need another Rolls Royce? It's a great album imo but if it sticks at that price (no Amazon listing yet, so just band store price to go on), then I'll pass.

[onthewall2983]

Here is the U.S. Amazon listing (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KBNRZ9K/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00KBNRZ9K&linkCode=as2&tag=superdeluxeed-20&linkId=LFKCHTJG4OENBXZN), considerably less than the UK version thankfully for us Yanks.

And this may be the only time I get to say this, but here's the new Pink Floyd video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7YMI39sObY#t=50

[fillow]

And there's not even a bonus disc with outtakes and stuff? This reissue is pointless to me.

[onthewall2983]

I'm surprised they didn't put The Big Spliff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_Pink_Floyd_material#The_Big_Spl iff) as a bonus disc with it. It could come out later, but this would have been the right time to put it in, that or they didn't deem it worthy of release.

[botley]

It's probably not. The 'ambient' pre-show soundscape stuff that came with the PULSE audio cassette was atrociously bad.

[onthewall2983]

The wiki page for the album, paraphrasing from Nick Mason's book, said there were 15 songs completed and they obviously did away with the remaining 4. Those four songs, along with some jams that they had leftover from the sessions would have been The Big Spliff. I'd wager that all that is still languishing in the vaults, none of it making on Gilmour's last album. "Smile" was the first song written for what became On An Island in the early 2000's.

Here's the track botley is referring to, which it seems to work only as pre-concert noise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNYq-c0lBw

[onthewall2983]

http://shop.pinkfloyd.com/browse-by-album-1/the-division-bell-20th-anniversary/division-bell-5-1-mix-dvd.html

Not Blu-ray but at least there's a stand-alone edition featuring the surround mix.

[onthewall2983]

Apropos of nothing, but that "Marooned" video is so beautiful and sad.

[onthewall2983]

Gilmour's wife just tweeted that an album of material from 1994 will come out in October. The Endless River is described by her as "Rick Wright's swansong and very beautiful". I'd normally wait until such an announcement is made more official, but considering the source I figured I'd post it anyway.

[MONKEYlovesYOU]

Gilmour's wife just tweeted that an album of material from 1994 will come out in October. The Endless River is described by her as "Rick Wright's swansong and very beautiful". I'd normally wait until such an announcement is made more official, but considering the source I figured I'd post it anyway.

Thanks for the info. I am not sure how it will sound but hope it isn't just 20 minutes of soundscapes

[onthewall2983]

It's the Big Spliff stuff, with more recent additions from Gilmour and Mason. There was a picture put up on Samson's Twitter months ago of David leading some female vocalists through some recording and one of them confirmed that it would be for this project, not Gilmour's next solo album. I read in a link that has since vanished the reason the news is trickling out now is because of a leak to the press, and that a formal announcement will be made as early as Monday.

[thevoid99]

If that is coming out, would Roger contribute some bass or something just to make it a true Floyd album?

[BRoswell]

If that is coming out, would Roger contribute some bass or something just to make it a true Floyd album?

I imagine not since the album wasn't started with his involvement. Would be cool if they did though.

[Kid Charlemagne]

No Roger Waters on it, and sorry lads, don't expect a tour either.

[Frozen Beach]

Here's the big question: Who the hell is gonna do the artwork since Storm Thorgerson passed away? Are they just gonna recycle some artwork of his?

[onthewall2983]

No, it'll likely be from Aubrey Powell (co-founded Hipgnosis with Storm, and the director of the "Marooned" video) who has just as long an association with Floyd as Storm did.

[onthewall2983]

From brain-damage.co.uk


UPDATE, 6th July: In today's The Sun on Sunday UK newspaper, under the tagline of 'Pigs Fly Again', is a report on the new album. Whilst none of their information is confirmed, and seems to come from an unnamed "source close to the project", there are some interesting updates. Included in the report they note that David and Nick have been working on this in the studio over the past six months, and that the material (sitting in a vault in London's Abbey Road Studios) has "been a joy for [them] to rediscover". They also make the point that Roger Waters is not involved in the project - a question we've had from a number of you. A spokesman for the band also stresses that there will be no accompanying live tour, although these last two points won't come as a surprise to many of you.

[Frozen Beach]

I wonder if they even asked Roger if he wanted in? Doesn't seem right to not at least ask since him and David were on good terms, and I'm sure he'd want to be involved with something that's suppose to be somewhat of a tribute to Rick.

[onthewall2983]

My guess would be that both of them felt since Roger wasn't part of it to start with it wouldn't feel right to crowbar him into something like that.

[onthewall2983]

From the band's official website and Facebook


Pink Floyd can confirm that they are releasing a new album "The Endless River" in October 2014. It is an album of mainly ambient and instrumental music based on the 1993/4 Division Bell sessions which feature David Gilmour, Nick Mason and Richard Wright. The album is produced by David Gilmour with Phil Manzanera, Youth and recording engineer Andy Jackson. Work is still in progress, but more details to come at the end of the Summer.

[Frozen Beach]

If it's at least half as good as High Hopes, Wearing the Inside Out and Sorrow, then I'll be fucking happy. Pink Floyd without Roger Waters may get flack, but those songs were worth all the mediocre ones.

[Reznor2112]

http://shop.pinkfloyd.com/browse-by-album-1/the-division-bell-20th-anniversary/division-bell-5-1-mix-dvd.html

Not Blu-ray but at least there's a stand-alone edition featuring the surround mix.

This says blu ray with 5.1 mix. http://shop.pinkfloyd.com/browse-by-album-1/the-division-bell-20th-anniversary/the-division-bell-20th-anniversary-box.html

[Wretchedest]

Hopefully it has dubstep on it.

[onthewall2983]

I know, but for awhile there was just a DVD with the surround mix for sale on their website but that appears not to be the case now.

[onthewall2983]

If it's at least half as good as High Hopes, Wearing the Inside Out and Sorrow, then I'll be fucking happy. Pink Floyd without Roger Waters may get flack, but those songs were worth all the mediocre ones.

The previous two (going to have to get used to not saying "the last two") get a lot more play than either The Final Cut or The Wall do with me. But The Division Bell is a classic for me now. I've gathered recently that there's been some critical rumblings and re-assessment of it, when it was hammered by the critics (something I suspect will happen again with the new record too).

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p58aJD_wLKc

[onthewall2983]

Because why not...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gXvVUg-VAE

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuVWbPR_5v0

[onthewall2983]

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10625029_761782500532224_4943827706169432700_n.jpg

[fillow]

Can someone explain to me why aren't there Immersion/Super Deluxe/whatever editions of any Pink Floyd album besides the holy trinity (you know which ones I mean)? (Although there's sorta one for Piper, a rare exception). I bet there's lots of live/demo/unreleased stuff from pretty much any album to fill at least one bonus CD.
Is this purely a marketing decision? Or an artistic one? How come Bowie sells his stuff (like self-titled Deluxe, or 5-album-10-cd 1995-2003 box set) and Pink Floyd can't?

[BRoswell]

It's probably a marketing decision. Dark Side, The Wall, and Wish You Were Here are the ones that are going to sell the most, so therefore it makes sense to load them up with bonus items.

[onthewall2983]

There was one in the works for Meddle but the record company balked. I do know from interviews that James Guthrie is working on things like a surround-sound edition of The Wall but it's been painstakingly long because the multi-tracks are difficult to deal with. Also something to take into account is that Floyd's relationship with labels have changed somewhat since they at first reverted back to EMI, which was then sold to Universal, and then they were put under the Parlophone label which itself was acquired by Warner Brothers. So I can see why editions of the other albums will possibly take awhile. But being a Floyd fan you get used to things taking a long time to come out.

[botley]

They are sitting on a lot of old material, which as recently as 1992 Gilmour vigorously denied was worthy of any official release. We'll see about that.

[henryeatscereal]

A "Meddle" experience edition would be great, and would love to see a "Obscured by clouds" experience ed, also

[onthewall2983]

Things have changed tremendously from then to now with regard to that kind of stuff, and I think with the Immersion sets they themselves have changed their tune on that.

[fillow]

If Roger's The Wall demo tapes are release worthy, then I don't know what isn't.

[onthewall2983]

I'm just hoping for more live stuff. They are incredibly under-represented as far as live albums, compared to some other bands of their generation. My pipe-dream is they manage to put together something of better quality than the Oakland show to represent the Animals tour. More realistically I'm hoping for a spiffed up version of the John Peel sessions they did in '70 and '71, which you can find online in rather good shape now but I think mixed professionally it could even shine more.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKWvwjY-B5E

Q&A from last night's TIFF showing of the new film.

[onthewall2983]

http://www.pinkfloyd.com/theendlessriver/

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/713FDVjpbqL._SL1500_.jpg

[henryeatscereal]

November come to me already!

[thevoid99]

That cover looks awesome. Totally a Floydian cover. I hope Roger Waters at least gets a thank you mention.

[Throw_it_away9]

Super excited. Would be more so if there was an accompanying tour...

[henryeatscereal]

I didn't like the cover... looks like Christian propaganda or some corny version of the ideas done on "Shine On" or "A momentary Lapse of Reason".
Still it's a new album by Pink Floyd, i'll be happy even if it's just a burned cd wrapped un cellophane...

[onthewall2983]

I prefer the graphics.

[henryeatscereal]

Is the cover a Storm Thorgerson/Hipgnosis piece? does anyone know?

[seasonsinthesky]

nope, Storm just passed away. it's an artist unrelated to Hipgnosis.

[thevoid99]

Actually, Aubrey Powell of Hipgnosis is involved in the artwork.

[onthewall2983]

He is, but the cover is from 18-year old Ahmed Emad Eldin.

[henryeatscereal]

nope, Storm just passed away. it's an artist unrelated to Hipgnosis.
Wow, yeah, just reading his Wikipedia entry, he passed away last year, i had no idea, may he rest in peace...


Actually, Aubrey Powell of Hipgnosis is involved in the artwork.
So i guess you can say there's an Hipgnosis involvement...


He is, but the cover is from 18-year old Ahmed Emad Eldin.
Makes sense since the idea is "Hipnosis-esque", yet it looks from someone new...

[Fractal04]

I hope it's good. :)

[botley]

Shit cover. Hope the music's better.

[onthewall2983]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByNCPYqIMAAt4Ca.jpg

Gilmour's got a bit of a Steve Zissou thing going.

[henryeatscereal]

He needs the hat...

[Jinsai]

wow, that is an atrocious album cover.

[onthewall2983]

I prefer to think of it as a little humorous. "No Waters".

[Jinsai]

well, the preview clip is out... sounds sorta bland (post Waters PF), cool ending bit though.
Considering that the album was assembled from Division Bell outtakes, I guess it'd be kind of silly to assume that it wouldn't sound like The Division Bell.

http://wzlx.cbslocal.com/2014/09/23/pink-floyd-the-endless-river-audio-teaser/

[Findus]

Is that Gabriel Byrne?

[onthewall2983]

Here's the preview clip, with those awesome graphics I alluded to earlier.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHtlwQNVQeo

[Frozen Beach]

The first clip, I like, but this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doUm7viV9oc&feature=youtu.be

Sounds like fucking music made for a commercial. Awful.

[onthewall2983]

Sounds like fucking music made for a commercial. Awful.

Maybe because it's as long as one?

[fillow]

This album's biggest problem is that it is promoted as one. They should've just put this music as a Division Bell deluxe reissue bonus CD and everyone would be happy.

[onthewall2983]

I can't disagree with that, and I think that's how it would have ended up were it not for Gilmour and Mason wanting to add on new parts and feeling as strongly that this should be a statement of it's own. But I deeply trust their judgment on that, more than I will any of the idiots (present company excluded, of course) immediately dismissing it because Waters isn't on it, or that it's all instrumental, or blah blah blah.

[onthewall2983]

This album's biggest problem is that it is promoted as one. They should've just put this music as a Division Bell deluxe reissue bonus CD and everyone would be happy.

The biggest problem is that they've released just samples, instead of a full song or piece of music.

[botley]

The BIGGEST problem is those samples aren't even tantalizing or memorable in any way.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQocDfdtBco

[GibbonBlack]

I'm not going to listen to anything until I can hear the whole album

[onthewall2983]

I wish I had your discipline.

[PhoenixML]

I get the feeling that NOBODY is waiting for this album. Nobody is excited about this and nobody seems to really care that it's an "official" album. I agree that it should have been a bonus cd on the new Division Bell edition.

[onthewall2983]

I get the feeling that NOBODY is waiting for this album. Nobody is excited about this and nobody seems to really care that it's an "official" album. I agree that it should have been a bonus cd on the new Division Bell edition.

If it was just untouched outtakes I would agree that it would have been better served as an extra disc on the TDB deluxe edition, but Gilmour and Mason felt strong enough about the material that it should be separate to the prior album. I highly trust their judgment about something like that too, they wouldn't just throw it out there as a cash-grab. The last thing in the world they need is more money, anyway.

Nobody here seems as excited for it, maybe apart from henry and void and myself and a few others. I'm not quite sure what you're basing that on, and I won't turn this into an argument because I'm genuinely curious as to why you think that. I think one thing the modern age has kind of dashed to bits is the mere idea of being excited about something, that it's cooler or more accepting to be cynical. I am almost humbled that I can say a Pink Floyd album of new material is coming out at an age when I can appreciate it. I know the music backwards and forwards. I've read nearly every word printed, seen as much video, and gazed at as many photographs about their history. I realize my expectations might be too high for this, but like I said I fully trust the surviving members intentions and their judgment as to why this should be released.

[henryeatscereal]

It makes sense that this album "mirrors" "The Division Bell", i was a teenager when it came out, but i was pretty conscious of it's impact (that was very modest in my opinion). Most of the media were still recovering from all the "Grunge" and "Indie" movements and a Pink Floyd album did not seem to fit in the 90's scene, still i think "The Division Bell" made it's impact through time and after 20 years it has cemented his reputation and got his long deserved appreciation.
I dare to say this is the same case; i don't know if "The Endless River" will end up being as memorable as "The Division Bell" (or any other PF album for that matter), but sure as hell it will be worth checking it out. Maybe it will be another "Gilmour album", maybe it will be it's own thing, i don't know and i don't care, but sure they have my interest, maybe over time it will become "memorable" as it happened with "The Division Bell".

[GibbonBlack]

even if it is something that should really have only been released as B-sides I'd much rather have those B-sides on BluRay, which probably wouldn't happen any other way. So I'll be happy

[botley]

Guys, there's a song on it called "On Noodle Street".

[ghostaustin]

if someone played the above clip for me and didn't tell me it was Pink Floyd, I would have assumed it was some kind of Dave Mathews Band stoned jam band kind of horseshit.

[botley]

Detailed song-by-song credits are now up on the Qobuz pre-order page (http://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/the-endless-river-pink-floyd/0825646202577?qref=dac_2&ectrans=1&ectrans=1).

[onthewall2983]

Um, no they're not.

[Aywok]

I'm actually very excited for this from a historical standpoint. I know this will not be an album proper, but should help round out 'The Division Bell' era nicely.

I'm hoping this is an album of outtakes, inserts, and abandoned tracks, similar to offerings available on Miles Davis' "Complete" boxsets. Those releases gave me a new respect for "lost" material.

[Space Suicide]

If anything this talk and thread make me want to listen to ANY Pink Floyd album.

[botley]

Um, no they're not.
Yep. Click on each title to reveal them.

Looks like Prof. Stephen Hawking is making another appearance.

[onthewall2983]

Oh cool, thanks.

[onthewall2983]

Rick essentially predicted this would come out, this is from his radio interview with Redbeard promoting The Division Bell in 1994


“We actually had four 90 Minute DAT or five or six hours of music. The hardest thing was to throw things out and decide what we’re gonna work on. So we had maybe 30 or 40 pieces of music and we worked on most of those. And then had to drop things we all loved – not knowing how the album was gonna turn out anyway! For example there are pieces that we dropped that I believe should be in the album now! But we had dropped: because we didn’t have any clear idea how the album would be. But they are not lost! They are in my head, They are in Dave’s head. They are going into my solo album, they are going into another Pink Floyd album or whatever!”

[onthewall2983]

http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/images/stories/2014/bbcr2_exclusive.jpg

[henryeatscereal]

About time, was wondering when they would release it...

[onthewall2983]

"Louder Than Words" is okay. Lyrics are a little "lower sixth" as Roger would say but everything else lifts it up.

[Scraptalicious]

Just heard "Louder Than Words." It's not terrible, but as expected, it's a lot more of that floaty, indistinct 'Division Bell' era noodling with some below-average lyrics up on top. Classic Rock stations will go batshit playing this ad nauseum before the album release, but is this song really going to have any legs past 2014? I doubt it.

I love the opportunity to hear new Pink Floyd as much as anyone here, but I think the low hum of the buzz for this album basically comes from an entire fanbase staying VERY cautiously optimistic, considering the details behind the origins of the music itself and the middling track record quality-wise of the previous 2 albums.

[henryeatscereal]

Track is nice, It's "generic 90's floyd" (if such thing exists), thought it would be much worse because all the reviews, i made some time to listen during my lunch and don't regret it.
In a way, it's exactly what i was expecting considering all the factors...

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41O2PmucBn4

[onthewall2983]

Rolling Stone have put up new interviews with David (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/david-gilmour-theres-no-room-in-my-life-for-pink-floyd-20141029?page=3) and Nick (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/nick-mason-im-not-entirely-sure-pink-floyd-is-over-20141031?page=2). And Amazon have put up the full EPK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pink-Floyd/e/B000APVN38/?tag=smarturl-gb-21).

[henryeatscereal]

New track "Allons-y (1)" (http://www.stereogum.com/1716107/pink-floyd-allons-y-1/mp3s/)

just a few days away...

[Exocet]

Its the most pre-ordered album of all time in the UK .... overtaken One Direction.

Makes one wonder how big a tour would have been.

[onthewall2983]

Gilmour has made some interesting comments about the '94 tour and the reputation they'd gained as a stadium band. I think the frustration that Roger had felt in 1977 finally caught up to him, so between that and raising a family the band quietly went away until Live8. To be quite honest, I'd much rather have seen them as they were before Dark Side of the Moon. I'm glad to hear that he will do some dates behind his next solo record. Hopefully he has one date in the Midwest (Chicago most likely), if his last tour was any indication.

[thevoid99]

If he does tour, I hope to see him. I know he won't play "Echoes" because Rick is gone. I just hope to hear some Floyd rarities.

[onthewall2983]

My copy is arriving Monday. I'm putting my foot down about not listening to anything from it until I have it in my hands. They are all about experiencing an album as an event in and of itself and I'm going to do my best to honor that.

[Substance242]

Got it today (amazon.de), I have 820 km route to drive so let's see how it works. :-)

Edit: I didn't even know there's 5.1 DTS Master Audio 96kHz/24bit on BluRay with Deluxe? Nice. :-)

[GibbonBlack]

I've got the Blu Ray coming but I'm going to be away on business until Wednesday :(

[Digital Twilight]

It's OK. There's some good stuff on there but it's not the album people will hope it was (it was never going to be).

Nice album to sit back and relax too.

[onthewall2983]

I think a lot of the hardcore fans have more realistic expectations that this won't be on the level of their greatest work. Those who will be disappointed and bitch about it are probably expecting something much more than what Gilmour and Mason have been telling us what it would be.

[Mr. Blaileen]

Knowing this was going to be more or less The Division Bell II, I think I went into this with the correct level of expectation. I'm most of the way through my first listen through, and I'm actually really liking it so far. It's not the most exciting stuff, but it's all pleasant to listen to, and it's unmistakably Pink Floyd. I think the idea to keep it an instrumental album was for the best..the first couple lines of 'Louder Than Words' make me cringe. The guys were right though, Rick's stuff really shines on this collection. 'Sums' is my favorite so far.

[onthewall2983]

I love it. This is more attuned to the period before up to Dark Side of the Moon, when they were at their best as a musical unit. It's more cohesive in the mood more than anything else. It's not a bang but not exactly a whimper either, a wonderful way to close the book either way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezc4HdLGxg4

[onthewall2983]

The launch party featured a suitably trippy old-school light show (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10154786438915117.1073741833.479591485116&type=1).

[henryeatscereal]

Pretty album with no intention other than "showing" nice music passages, i thought it was ok, not essential listening or anything just the band "showing off" their instrumental-crafting, it does have some great moments like Manson's awesome drumming in "Skins", "Talkin' Hawkin" and even some riffs that reference previous Pink Floyd work.
A nice epilogue that's not essential listening but deserves a chance if you give it...

[icecream]

I really wish Endless River stayed unreleased. Knew it would be bad when the material was left off The Division Bell. Still gave it a chance but it sounds incomplete.

[Sutekh]

I like it, has a lot of the sounds and textures from the era of Floyd I like the most. No vocals is fine by me, they're all a bit old for cod-philosophising and let's face it, Waters was the one with something to say. A understated end with lots of nice reminders of their sound over the years. They would never be able to release anything that matched their mid-period greatness, so low key is a better way to go than a potentially underwhelming attempt at epicness, IMO.

Will be a good album for chilling out in the garden with a jazz fag (stop vomiting at the back)

[Space Suicide]

Basically the album is intrumentals for songs that never got lyrics and vocals for to me. It's alright, nothing mind blowingly awesome.

[vvdravenvv]

Listening to the album now and I think it's a great capstone to their work to show that even Pink Floyd leftovers are still better than 99% of what's out there today.

[caca]

My sentiments are similar to those expressed by others. It's a good instrumental album, but it doesn't feel like anything I haven't already heard these guys do before. I really wish they had gone with full-blown "songs." Gilmour can obviously still play the shit out of his guitar and his voice still sounds good. It feels like a missed opportunity to me. All in all: a good record. Just not a particularly memorable one.

[botley]

"Ebb and Flow" is a good track, and I love Mason's work on "Skins". I'm not hearing anything else I'll want to replay.

[onthewall2983]

Number 1 in the UK, 3 in the U.S. behind Foo Fighters and Taylor swift (groan).

[Jinsai]

if this album did not have the name "Pink Floyd" attached to it, absolutely NOBODY would care about it.

[GibbonBlack]

NOBODY would care about it.

not even whoever recorded it? :o

[Frozen Beach]

if this album did not have the name "Pink Floyd" attached to it, absolutely NOBODY would care about it.
Well, no shit considering this is an album in the loosest sense. This is basically Pink Floyd's Ghosts I–IV.

[Jinsai]

Well, no shit considering this is an album in the loosest sense. This is basically Pink Floyd's Ghosts I–IV.

no... Ghosts I-IV was interesting.

This is new age coffee shop music.

[Frozen Beach]

no... Ghosts I-IV was interesting.

To us, yeah, but we're NIN fans. Plenty of people did not enjoy it, and most of the positive reaction to the project was more towards the way it was released.

And I majorly said this was "Pink Floyd's Ghosts" because its appeal is majorly to hardcore fans, and it's a collection of ideas that were never properly fleshed out.

[thevoid99]

I finally heard the album today in its deluxe edition. I don't think it will be in that list of great albums but it is better than A Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell while it has elements of Meddle which I noticed. It also has some of the early post-Syd era Floyd in some of the organs that Rick Wright was playing. If this is their final album. At least they go out with a winner.

[seasonsinthesky]

Nick Mason sounds absolutely impeccable on this album. he's never had a finer drum mix, imo.

[Jinsai]

To us, yeah, but we're NIN fans.

It has nothing to do with that. I'm also a Pink Floyd fan, and there's a lot of NIN music that I think is pretty weak.

I really wanted to like this album, but there's really only a couple of moments in there that stand out to me. Otherwise it's soul-suckingly dull and obnoxiously pleasant.

I would take the David Gilmour solo albums over this. I'd take The Final Cut over this. I'd even take Broken China or Wet Dream over this.

[onthewall2983]

Admittedly I've been going back to the old albums more than The Endless River for the last several days. It put me directly back with the feeling I had listening to them for the first time. More specifically, I ran across some better versions of the John Peel sessions from 1968 and 1970. I've not listened to a whole lot (I'm a bit of a stickler for sound quality when it comes to bootlegs) other than the Oakland '77 and a few various others. I recently also found a recording from 1970 of them at Montreux which is actually quite excellent for being an audience recording.

The 1971 John Peel session might be my favorite. The only better version of "Echoes" you'll ever find is the original.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYsVNx5xGpo

[thevoid99]

I really hope the band releases a BBC Sessions compilation with some notes from Roger, David, and Nick.

[botley]

I really hope the band releases a BBC Sessions compilation with some notes from Roger, David, and Nick.
That would be great. Definitely holding out hope for a deluxe expanded box set of Relics.

[onthewall2983]

As they are, they're quite good. The 1970 session is only available in mono so the best I could hope for is that there's a new stereo mix of it if those sessions do ever do come out.

[onthewall2983]

Congrats to Pink Floyd and specifically Andy Jackson for getting a Grammy nod for Best Surround Mix for his work on The Division Bell​'s 5.1 mix.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mZesqg02Ko

[onthewall2983]

Even though his album has not been announced yet, dates are already set for David Gilmour in Europe this September (http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/david-gilmour-blog-starts-2015-european-tour-presales.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitterfeed).

[pulse]

Even though his album has not been announced yet, dates are already set for David Gilmour in Europe this September (http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/david-gilmour-blog-starts-2015-european-tour-presales.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitterfeed).

Gilmour has also confirmed that his solo album will be out the same month, with more details to follow.

http://www.planetrock.com/news/rock-news/david-gilmour-announces-uk-gigs/

[GibbonBlack]

The only seats left on the pre sale are pretty awful. Hopefully there are some better ones available tomorrow, I won't be able to try when they go on sale though so I hope some will be available later in the day

[pulse]

Wow, all tickets sold out in a matter of several minutes on the regular sale. Think somebody is still popular? lol......

[GibbonBlack]

I wasn't lucky enough to get any :( I kinda wish I went with the pretty awful seats I mentioned now

[fillow]

Wow, all tickets sold out in a matter of several minutes on the regular sale. Think somebody is still popular? lol......
Well, you're pretty much guaranteed to hear at least half of the set of Pink Floyd songs performed by a former Pink Floyd singer and several members of late PF backing band members, if the past tours are any indication, so why not? (I guess he'll want to debut Louder than Words as well).
I'd buy a ticket in a heartbeat if this tour landed anywhere close to me.

[thevoid99]

I definitely want to go see it just to hear the Floyd songs as well as some of the recent stuff. Though I doubt he would play "Astronomy Domine" again because Richard isn't here anymore, I would love to hear some rarities.

[fillow]

I wonder if Roger is gearing up for next three-year cycle of nostalgia touring (Animals? The Final Cut?), or will he finally sit down and write some new stuff? (And finish all those live DVDs along the way).

[botley]

Roger has an assload of unfinished projects, which of them will see the light of day is anyone's guess — but I doubt that he will tour again without releasing a new album first.

Sony Records apparently wants to put out a Blu-ray audio version of Amused to Death in the spring, with the 5.1 mix that James Guthrie premiered last year on it.

[pulse]

Roger has an assload of unfinished projects, which of them will see the light of day is anyone's guess — but I doubt that he will tour again without releasing a new album first.

Sony Records apparently wants to put out a Blu-ray audio version of Amused to Death in the spring, with the 5.1 mix that James Guthrie premiered last year on it.

That is an album that deserves to be experienced in surround. So much sound stage on that work.

[botley]

It's complete and in the can, just waiting on release. He has finished the Wall solo tour documentary as well, it premiered here at TIFF. That's going to blow some minds. If you saw the tour, you'd know it was anything but a "nostalgia" show.

[pulse]

It's complete and in the can, just waiting on release. He has finished the Wall solo tour documentary as well, it premiered here at TIFF. That's going to blow some minds. If you saw the tour, you'd know it was anything but a "nostalgia" show.

I saw it twice. You are correct. A nostalgia show it was not.

[Melancholygrl78]

I love Pink Floyd! My favorite song is ​Learning to Fly.